Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Shakur Stevenson-Floyd Schofield, Boots Ennis-Vergil Ortiz negotiations, and what happened in the corner between Galal Yafai and Sunny Edwards

[Oregonian]

This regular poster is all over the place. Recent events already showed his hero being proven a duck and he's still asking silly questions. Downplaying Ortiz's skills and career trajectory won't even work if you have normal brain because it won't make sense Ennis ducking such fighter you're describing. Oh man the quality of postings in this forum is abysmal. It's like talking to a child.

Ennis fighting Clayton, a guy everyone can beat in his 30th fight is embarrassing. Did he even try to fight recognized guys like Josesito, Kavaliauskas, non-prime Ava, Guerrero, etc.? What the heck was he thinking in that crucial time of his career?

BTW, do you believe all people in the US who hate or dislike Tru/mp voted for Harris?

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You are just as regular a poster as I am. Also, I responded to all your erroneous points and I’m all over the place?
As for “talking to a child”, is it possible for you to make your arguments or points without making it a personal attack on others? Your anger is very misplaced and misdirected.

I think at this point trying to argue with you about Boots or Ortiz’s careers is a waste of time, just based off your rebuttals.

As for your last question regarding Tru/mp and Harris, I have just one word: Wow!

Talk about being all over the place. Who gives a fück about that shǐt? I’m pretty sure you’re the one that has some very strong opinions about it. Save it for your high school friends.

[tomhawq]

I think at this point trying to argue with you about Boots or Ortiz’s careers is a waste of time, just based off your rebuttals.
As for your last question regarding Tru/mp and Harris, I have just one word: Wow!
Talk about being all over the place. Who gives a fück about that shǐt? I’m pretty sure you’re the one that has some very strong opinions about it. Save it for your high school friends.

So you believe people who legitimately criticize Ennis are all Ortiz fans? I stated facts and you reacted asking about Ortiz. RJJ, Tim Bradley and others are saying not nice things about Ennis. Are they Ortiz fans?

[The D3vil]

GGG is built for MW lol. he a true MW . boots says he to big for ww and makes excuse for last performance saying that. welter weight was a great division because it had alot of great talent stacked in it traditionally. don't just squat there and act like a great. now 154 is full of killers. Boots should go make name for himself. or else stay at ww and be irrelevant in boxing

I agree he should go to 154, eventually.

But regardless, 147, will always be the marquee division outside of heavyweight.

I don't fault anybody who wants to completely clear out their division, especially, that one.

Being the absolute guy in the division of Robinson, Leonard, Mayweather, & Pacquaio will always matter.

As long as he fights everybody in his division he's supposed to fight, then we're good.

Also, GGG was the one who aid he could take anybody from 154-168, right?

That was him, right???

[Oregonian]

So you believe people who legitimately criticize Ennis are all Ortiz fans? I stated facts and you reacted asking about Ortiz. RJJ, Tim Bradley and others are saying not nice things about Ennis. Are they Ortiz fans?

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And yet OUT OF NOWHERE you bring in Tru/mp and Harris.

[Poopdick]

I agree he should go to 154, eventually.

But regardless, 147, will always be the marquee division outside of heavyweight.

I don't fault anybody who wants to completely clear out their division, especially, that one.

Being the absolute guy in the division of Robinson, Leonard, Mayweather, & Pacquaio will always matter.

As long as he fights everybody in his division he's supposed to fight, then we're good.

Also, GGG was the one who aid he could take anybody from 154-168, right?

That was him, right???

that doesn't mean GGG wasn't the perfect mw size and undersized for upper divisions. it's ok. Hagler was same. boots said his "lesser" performance against Karen was maybe because of him shrinking down to ww. GGG was allegedly just trying to make some kind of major fight. and all those ww you've mentioned are remembered because of the competition they had at ww. ww without the top competitions is just a shell with a label on it. things change. the toughest fighters in that area of weight now is 154. and you can make a name for yourself by owning that division. if you wait around for all them.to either burn out or move up, it does your career pointless. idk why none of these boxers want to take it on and try to become legends. that will suit them.well for the rest of thir lives.

[tomhawq]

And yet OUT OF NOWHERE you bring in Tru/mp and Harris.

Can't believe this guy is this slow. My mistake in using Tr/ump-Harris for analogy to his all who critiques Ennis are Ortiz fans. I could have used a simpler one like some boy loving toy guns therefore he'll grow up to be a soldier or something.
Anyone here have better analogy to help this guy out? I've never been in a single Ortiz-dedicated thread, yet his instant reaction in defending Boots is "you must be a Ortiz fan." Crazy how some fans have become this extreme without an ounce of objectivity in them.

[Oregonian]

Can't believe this guy is this slow. My mistake in using Tr/ump-Harris for analogy to his all who critiques Ennis are Ortiz fans. I could have used a simpler one like some boy loving toy guns therefore he'll grow up to be a soldier or something.
Anyone here have better analogy to help this guy out? I've never been in a single Ortiz-dedicated thread, yet his instant reaction in defending Boots is "you must be a Ortiz fan." Crazy how some fans have become this extreme without an ounce of objectivity in them.

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You think people are fixated on our discourse? lol lmao!!

You stick with your boys Tru/mp and Ortiz, kapisch?

[tomhawq]

You think people are fixated on our discourse? lol lmao!!
You stick with your boys Tru/mp and Ortiz, kapisch?

RJJ and Tim Bradley must be secret Ortiz fans doe. You'll never know. :-)

[Oregonian]

RJJ and Tim Bradley must be secret Ortiz fans doe. You'll never know. :-)

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Just like Tru/mp and Harris too.

[Doubledagger]

He was upset that people are accusing Boots of ducking, so he tried to turn it around on Vergil Ortiz.

But Ortiz signed the contract to fight Ennis…considered fighting Xander Zayas when Ennis backed out…and will now be fighting Madrimov.

What is Boots doing? Nothing. The situations aren’t equivalent all. It’s retarded to ask, rhetorically or not, if Vergil Ortiz is ducking.

Like I said, learn reading comprehension.

That question was not implying that Ortiz is ducking Zayas, it’s actually the opposite.

He is saying that in the same way Ortix is NOT ducking Zayas just because Zayas said so, Boots similarly is not ducking Ortiz just because Ortiz’s trainer or promoter said he is. His point is that the devil is in the details and that simply having been in negotiations with someone or in talks with someone doesn’t automatically equal a duck.

Of course he is full of cap because Boots is in fact ducking Ortiz, but in no way, shape or form was he arguing that Ortiz is ducking Zayas, his point was the opposite of what you think.

Improve your reading comprehension.