How to create a hype job- the Berlanga story

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  • ELPacman
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    #21
    Originally posted by NoAgendaBoxing
    I've said this countless times over the years and ill say it again...you don't get a Canelo fight because you're "ready"...in fact, being ready is a negative.
    Canelo learned from Mayweather. How old was Canelo when he faced Mayweather? Exactly. He's simply taking a page out Mayweather's book, especially towards the end of Mayweather's career. You think he wants to be in a life or death situation fight with the kind of money he makes taking weak/hopeless opposition? At this point, he's there to collect checks and go home. With as MINIMAL damage as possible.

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    • garfios
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      #22
      Originally posted by kafkod

      Ortiz was never a top ranked fighter in his prime, whenever that was. He was hyped up as an opponent for Wilder, who was also a hype job.
      Have it your way.

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      • MulaKO
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        #23
        Originally posted by PBR Streetgang

        It pains me to say that you are right about Lemieux because I always enjoyed watching him try to punch someone's head off their neck. I will never forget how badly he was outclassed by BJS. In David's defense, his ceiling was higher than Berlanga's, he was able to brutally KO a notch higher level in competition (Curtis Stevens, Patrick Teixeira, Spike O'Sullivan).
        I’d agree with what your saying and yes he was a notch higher
        He was must watch but as soon as the competition got better he was on a slide unfortunately

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        • CharlieStewart
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          #24
          >Be American
          >Pretend you're a rapper

          seems to be the formula

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          • daggum
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            #25
            Originally posted by garfios

            I don't think Ortiz is the best example. First nobody wanted to fight him when he was closer to his prime, second he was winning the fight both times and he got caught. I could give some more examples but Ortiz is not one of them.
            that was just marketing, it wasnt actually true. he actually did everything possible not to get the joshua fight. he left match room when joshua and ortiz were both with them, he got busted for peds so he lost his mandatory to joshua, he turned down a career high payday against joshua. if you really want the fight you dont do these things. its like the lara vs ggg thing where lara knew he could call out ggg because he was with pbc and ggg with hbo so the fight wasnt possible(unless he wanted to go to hbo which he didnt) oh yeah and he also wanted more to fight ggg then he got for canelo just in case they tried to get him over to hbo he knew they wouldnt have that kind of money for a ggg-lara fight. just PR and nothing more. ortiz even said he couldnt fight whyte then fought some bum on the same day. it was clear he was only allowed on the pbc program. he was probably matched so soft just so he wouldnt lose and would be saved for wilder.
            Last edited by daggum; 11-26-2024, 04:15 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Elheath
              From 2016 when Berlanga had his first professional fight at age 18 (almost 19) through 2020 (age 23), he had 16 fights to start his career out which all ended with a first round KO win in about 5 years.

              From 2021 (age 24) to end of 2023 (age 26) he had five fights that all went the distance, Desmond Nicholson (8 rounds), Marcelo Coceres (10 rounds), Steve Rolles (10 rounds), Roamer Angulo (10 rounds), and Jason Quigley (12 rounds) in about 3 years.

              Then on February 2024 Berlanga TKOed Padraig McCrory in the 6th round, which led to May 2024 where he had his best fight in his career, a proud UD loss against Canelo Alvarez.

              Currently age 27, he hasn't fought since his fight against Canelo but who knows where the Tale of Two Berlangas will go.
              basically wilders career. wilder ko'd all the bums they put in front of him but once the competition got better...bye bye ko's. only ring ranked opponent he ko'd was ortiz but hes the biggest pucnher in boxing history by ko'ing 1 guy that was ranked? so silly.

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              • moochi
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                #27
                Boxing is a business disguised as a sport.

                Berlanga was never a hype job at all. He was just a C grade fighter who happened to have Puerto Rican parents.

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                • garfios
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by daggum

                  that was just marketing, it wasnt actually true. he actually did everything possible not to get the joshua fight. he left match room when joshua and ortiz were both with them, he got busted for peds so he lost his mandatory to joshua, he turned down a career high payday against joshua. if you really want the fight you dont do these things. its like the lara vs ggg thing where lara knew he could call out ggg because he was with pbc and ggg with hbo so the fight wasnt possible(unless he wanted to go to hbo which he didnt) oh yeah and he also wanted more to fight ggg then he got for canelo just in case they tried to get him over to hbo he knew they wouldnt have that kind of money for a ggg-lara fight. just PR and nothing more. ortiz even said he couldnt fight whyte then fought some bum on the same day. it was clear he was only allowed on the pbc program. he was probably matched so soft just so he wouldnt lose and would be saved for wilder.
                  Wrong decisions doesn't make you a hyped job. He believed everything that his manager told him, I know for a fact he wanted to take the fight against AJ, even though he didn't have enough time to train, you're talking about money, right? He got two changing life paychecks not jus one, Hearns promised the fight with AJ and never delivered. Peds has nothing to do with a hyped job, I don't remember about tje whyte fight you might have a better memory than me. A hyped job crumbles before getting to the top, unless the one on the summit is named canelo, he likes those type of fighter.

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by garfios

                    Wrong decisions doesn't make you a hyped job. He believed everything that his manager told him, I know for a fact he wanted to take the fight against AJ, even though he didn't have enough time to train, you're talking about money, right? He got two changing life paychecks not jus one, Hearns promised the fight with AJ and never delivered. Peds has nothing to do with a hyped job, I don't remember about tje whyte fight you might have a better memory than me. A hyped job crumbles before getting to the top, unless the one on the summit is named canelo, he likes those type of fighter.
                    I'm not saying ortiz was a hype job, he was good, but he wasnt the guy everyone ducked, that was marketing and his actions show he was more interested in headlines then fights.

                    Ive already broken down that whole situation before somewhere but in summary he signed with match room then left after 6 months. Thats not really reasonable to expect the aj fight especially when you consider aj and wlad signed to fight during that period. Of course Hearn didn't deliver the fight to a guy who left for a rival promotion, and like I said he lost his mandatory spot to aj for cheating then turned down the fight with 40 days to prepare and ortiz doesn't need time to get in shape.

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                    • garfios
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      I'm not saying ortiz was a hype job, he was good, but he wasnt the guy everyone ducked, that was marketing and his actions show he was more interested in headlines then fights.

                      Ive already broken down that whole situation before somewhere but in summary he signed with match room then left after 6 months. Thats not really reasonable to expect the aj fight especially when you consider aj and wlad signed to fight during that period. Of course Hearn didn't deliver the fight to a guy who left for a rival promotion, and like I said he lost his mandatory spot to aj for cheating then turned down the fight with 40 days to prepare and ortiz doesn't need time to get in shape.
                      My whole argument is that he is not a hyped job like someone said, putting him as the best example of a hyped job. And the fight between whyte was never made not because Ortiz turned him down. Google the question and read it for yourself. And yes he got caught using peds.
                      Last edited by garfios; 11-27-2024, 10:05 PM.

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