Comments Thread For: No ducking here: David Benavidez-David Morrell a boost to boxing 'mindset'

[garfios]

You still not answering the question man, Canelo actually became the division first ever undisputed, something Benavidez never even talked about ,let me remind you again BENAVIDEZ HAD THE BELT TWICE ,what risk did he took back then when he was the champ? Exactly.

Listen we can go back n forth all day long but if carefully dissect each fighter resume you dont have to be a boxing expert too realize whos the one that actually have taken more risks.

Look at his opposition, he had no intention to unify the division. I know you're a smart person, when he joined the division he said, and quote "I won't fight mexicans no more", who was the champ then? So went on and wiped the floor with the British bunch and never fought the half mexican/Dominican/Ecuadorian fighter, who was the real king in the division. Really an honest question, don't you see it?

[CubanGuyNYC]

if you dont fight the top guy in your division for 4 years then your legacy is tarnished. same as floyd and margarito. benny and marg werent kambosos/baldomir type guys who faded away instantly. they had staying power at the top of the division with a bunch of good wins. most guys that canelo fought didnt have any good wins(yildram, saunders, charlo, berlanga etc... or maybe 1 like callum smith. benavidez now has 3 good wins across 2 divisions, marg had 4-5 good wins but i heard the same exact thing when floyd didnt fight him, oh he doenst deserve the fight but sharmba does? zab off a loss to a bum does? nobody deserved the fight more and yet benavidez didnt get it. now he will always go down as ducking the best guy in his division, of course you will say he would have won anyway and thats the whole point of not fighting him, canelo can rely on his fans to say that kind of stuff even though the truth is canelo forfeited his dignity with a shameless duck and thats part of his legacy

I truly feel bad for Benavidez, not getting his rightful date with Canelo. Instead, Alvarez chose Berlanga — Berf.uckinglanga. It’s stuff like this that made Jake Paul versus Tyson possible. The fact that I tuned-in to that circus, along with millions of others, tells you what state this sport is in. Yet the irony is, that show featured two amazing undercard fights that would be the envy of any “serious” event. David versus David is a nice fight, but it’s getting a lot more attention than it would have, say, ten years ago. Pretty pathetic.

[daggum]

Hold on, so you actually consider Bennys last 3 as legitimate 'good wins' lol? Lets see,

Plant: Granted ,even tho he couldn't finish him like everybody thought he would but still his best win i agree.

Andrade: 154 fighter w/out a single notable win as a 68 pounder ,add the inactivity to it.

Grandpa Gvozdyk: aged former 75 champ that was practically semi- retired and Benavidez barely handled him, a decent win at the most.

I know you guys just cant stand the ginger and thats ok but dont let your hate or whatever to stand in between your judgment and the actual facts when it comes to both fighters.

where did i say last 3? nowhere. i said he has 3 good wins which he does. plant ranked 2, dirrell ranked top 5 and if you count 175 where canelo could fight him, he beat gvodzk top 10 and former #1. how many top 10 wins does berlanga have at 168? 0. yildram? 0. saunders at 168? 0. charlo at 168? 0. ggg at 168? 0. callum, ryder, and munguia had 1. its not close. no one is saying benavidez has a better resume than canelo, if that were the requirement to get a canelo fight then canelo could only fight floyd, pac, etc...

there is no comparison between benavidez and the guys canelo actually fought which is what we are comparing but you try to change the argument to canelo vs benavidez when its benavidez vs the guys canelo fights and benavidez is clearly better on every single level, not to mention he was #1 for almost 5 years.

[daggum]

I truly feel bad for Benavidez, not getting his rightful date with Canelo. Instead, Alvarez chose Berlanga — Berf.uckinglanga. It’s stuff like this that made Jake Paul versus Tyson possible. The fact that I tuned-in to that circus, along with millions of others, tells you what state this sport is in. Yet the irony is, that show featured two amazing undercard fights that would be the envy of any “serious” event. David versus David is a nice fight, but it’s getting a lot more attention than it would have, say, ten years ago. Pretty pathetic.

but wait benavidez doesnt have a resume as good as canelo so he doenst have to fight him! but berlanga does? guy never fought anyone. its the backed into the corner argument since everyone canelo has fought cept floyd doesnt have a resume as good as canelo so what does that prove? benavidez has the best resume of anyone at 168 except canelo, therefore they should have fought, canelo was scared and didnt want to. thats just what happened, how can anyone defend that or just dismiss pure cowardice? its a stain on his legacy but then again this is the guy who cheats, makes up his own weight classes to duck guys, rehydration clauses etc...

[Groin Grabber]

If being honest, it is more like trying to undermine what he has done so far rather than proving anything.

Feel like Benavidez has the tools to handle both whether he wins or loses.

Specially Bivol if he beats Morrell, since David's static high guard will allow him to create openings for him like it happened for Craig Richards and Canelo Alvarez, except he be able to capitalize on his handspeed and utilize his reach advantage after catching and shooting. He will lose the initial 4-6 rounds, but he can wear down Bivol with body work and force him to fight on the ropes.

With Beterviev he has box on his backfoot to create distance and slip punches as he did against with Angulo and Gvozdyk, as Beterviev will break through the high guard and catch him with a big shot. Also disrupt his rhythm by outworking 2-1 while picking his shots. Has to avoid getting winded like he did against Gvozdyk where he injured his hand, but at least he be fighting a shorter fighter that is physically declining.

That's a good breakdown but Benny hasn't fought any top level guy or even shown he can fight the way your imagining it.

Like I said his best wins are plant (who a smaller carnela stopped)
Andrade who actually took the early rounds but was just too small
And that's it.

No top level guy he can prove that what your saying is true

He gets whooped and whooped easily by bivol and beter.

[garfios]

That's a good breakdown but Benny hasn't fought any top level guy or even shown he can fight the way your imagining it.

Like I said his best wins are plant (who a smaller carnela stopped)
Andrade who actually took the early rounds but was just too small
And that's it.

No top level guy he can prove that what your saying is true

He gets whooped and whooped easily by bivol and beter.

Well, if the fight doesn't happen how are we going to prove it? So let's hope it does happens.

[BodyBagz]

Lemme guess,
Morrell is a legit name because he's "big and strong !" ?!?

[Haka]

Bena wins this fight period.

[YOU WILL LOSE]

big discussion i overheard- they said they all see that benavidez was taken to the llimit by canelo's sparring partner

and then instead of waiting for bivol v beterbiev to play out, he announces a fight with 11-0 the week of the lhw undisputed.

they all said it seems like he back to the drawing board after fighting canelo sparring partner

[Haka]

but wait benavidez doesnt have a resume as good as canelo so he doenst have to fight him! but berlanga does? guy never fought anyone. its the backed into the corner argument since everyone canelo has fought cept floyd doesnt have a resume as good as canelo so what does that prove? benavidez has the best resume of anyone at 168 except canelo, therefore they should have fought, canelo was scared and didnt want to. thats just what happened, how can anyone defend that or just dismiss pure cowardice? its a stain on his legacy but then again this is the guy who cheats, makes up his own weight classes to duck guys, rehydration clauses etc...

Canelo called Bena in the ring but Bean didn't step up.