Comments Thread For: How old is too old? Mike Tyson and the risk of fighting at 58

[CubanGuyNYC]

The fact you people are even commenting on this "fight" is embarrassing.

The “fight” might be embarrassing, but it’s captured popular attention. I see friends on Facebook, who don’t watch boxing, commenting on it. Tyson’s guaranteed 20 million, and Paul 40 million, for this glorified exhibition match. Says a lot.

[Toffee]

Look, it's obviously quite a high chronological age number, especially for boxing.

But the biological age is the real age, and I'm sure eight two minute rounds, if it goes the distance, is not difficult for Tyson.

Whether it's difficult isn't the issue. It's what happens to a 58 year old's brain when you hit them in the head that is the issue.

Physically, Tyson would rate much better than 58. His brain wouldn't though.

[Phase III]

Why the Tyson v Paul fight has all the hallmarks of definitely being scripted like the WWE.

First of all the Netflix model relies on content for its approximately 80 million subscribers in the US and UK where boxing has its biggest audiences. A one off event such as the Tyson v Paul fight is not a big driver for Netflix because their algorithm focuses more on viewing hours, and not total views, which is the case here. Therefore, understand that original content and documentaries are the gold standard and drivers for this streaming platform.

Netflix is paying substantially (50-100 million) to put this fight on their platform. The higher the viewership, the more MVP promotions will make. it would be safe to say that for this risky Netflix experiment anything less than 2 million views would be considered a bust. In order to satisfy Netflix appetite to keep boxing on their platform, at least 5% (4 million views) of their US and UK subscribers would need to watch. There will be perhaps another 100-200K views from Netflix global audience of 260 million subscribers.

Compare that to the 100-200 million Netflix pays for original content which includes A list actors and producers, who produce content with episodes which brings binge, couch potato viewers, something of critical importance to Netflix.

For this fight to keep Netflix’s ongoing interest in boxing, the viewership will need to hit a home run. One thing the fight has going for itself is that their critical viewing audience are viewers between the ages of 18-34. That bodes well for Jake, whereas Tyson only bring curiosity viewers because if his name.

Bottom line, in order for this fight to be successful given the fact that Paul is fighting a boxing relic in Tyson, there must be drama, and the only way to achieve drama and a future for continued boxing content on Netflix is to script the fight like a WWE event where the winner and loser is predetermined and the fight itself is scripted to create a buzz. In other words, if this were just about a young Jake taking out an old man in Tyson, the fight would be a catastrophe. There is a reason Tyson demanded 8, 2 minute round with 14oz gloves, his age and health are massively questionable. However, Tyson winning with a sizable audience would allow for boxing to live for a least another day on Netflix.

At some point, Paul is going to need more to keep the money rolling other than fighting washed up MMA fighters, or a “so called” professional fighters like Tommy Fury who’s opponents records before fighting Paul was an embarrassing 24 wins and 176 losses.

Yes V i r g i n, i a, the slap at the weigh-in was 100% scripted in order to get the WWE effect. Rest assured, there will be more of that tomorrow. There has to be for Netflix to continue this risky experiment.

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Why the Tyson v Paul fight has all the hallmarks of definitely being scripted like the WWE.

First of all the Netflix model relies on content for its approximately 80 million subscribers in the US and UK where boxing has its biggest audiences. A one off event such as the Tyson v Paul fight is not a big driver for Netflix because their algorithm focuses more on viewing hours, and not total views, which is the case here. Therefore, understand that original content and documentaries are the gold standard and drivers for this streaming platform.

Netflix is paying substantially (50-100 million) to put this fight on their platform. The higher the viewership, the more MVP promotions will make. it would be safe to say that for this risky Netflix experiment anything less than 2 million views would be considered a bust. In order to satisfy Netflix appetite to keep boxing on their platform, at least 5% (4 million views) of their US and UK subscribers would need to watch. There will be perhaps another 100-200K views from Netflix global audience of 260 million subscribers.

Compare that to the 100-200 million Netflix pays for original content which includes A list actors and producers, who produce content with episodes which brings binge, couch potato viewers, something of critical importance to Netflix.

For this fight to keep Netflix’s ongoing interest in boxing, the viewership will need to hit a home run. One thing the fight has going for itself is that their critical viewing audience are viewers between the ages of 18-34. That bodes well for Jake, whereas Tyson only bring curiosity viewers because if his name.

Bottom line, in order for this fight to be successful given the fact that Paul is fighting a boxing relic in Tyson, there must be drama, and the only way to achieve drama and a future for continued boxing content on Netflix is to script the fight like a WWE event where the winner and loser is predetermined and the fight itself is scripted to create a buzz. In other words, if this were just about a young Jake taking out an old man in Tyson, the fight would be a catastrophe. There is a reason Tyson demanded 8, 2 minute round with 14oz gloves, his age and health are massively questionable. However, Tyson winning with a sizable audience would allow for boxing to live for a least another day on Netflix.

At some point, Paul is going to need more to keep the money rolling other than fighting washed up MMA fighters, or a “so called” professional fighters like Tommy Fury who’s opponents records before fighting Paul was an embarrassing 24 wins and 176 losses.

Yes V i r g i n, i a, the slap at the weigh-in was 100% scripted in order to get the WWE effect. Rest assured, there will be more of that tomorrow. There has to be for Netflix to continue this risky experiment.

Netflix does rely on subscriptions, as does most everything these days, but we also don't know what the deal was between MVP and Netflix.

I’m sure Netflix getting an extra cut of money from somewhere in all of this.

[Smash]

texas health arlington is 24hrs & on standby incase mike has a medical emergency & a stash of liquid IV weed to keep him going while he gets there

[Phase III]

Netflix does rely on subscriptions, as does most everything these days, but we also don't know what the deal was between MVP and Netflix.

I’m sure Netflix getting an extra cut of money from somewhere in all of this.

That’s correct. But, although Netflix revenues are outstanding given their 260 million subscribers, they are not profitable given their strategy of reinvesting their revenues in content creation and acquisition over short-term profitability in order to keep the advantage they have over other streaming competitors like Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, HBO/ Max, and Hulu. The ideal Netflix client is one who binge watched their content.

Boxing as a one-off event is a very small niche market for Netflix, one where they are not prepared to pay the 100-250 million for original content with follow on episodes to feed the appetite of a binge watcher, their favorite subscriber.

[BrankoB]

They are promoting this fight really well. Hell, my cleaning lady told me the other day she is watching the fight. I have known her for 5 years and she never mentioned any interest in boxing.

[Superbee]

Let's just appreciate the fact that this fight structure is even worst than the ladies ....

[morph_resurrected]

That’s correct. But, although Netflix revenues are outstanding given their 260 million subscribers, they are not profitable given their strategy of reinvesting their revenues in content creation and acquisition over short-term profitability in order to keep the advantage they have over other streaming competitors like Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, HBO/ Max, and Hulu. The ideal Netflix client is one who binge watched their content.

Boxing as a one-off event is a very small niche market for Netflix, one where they are not prepared to pay the 100-250 million for original content with follow on episodes to feed the appetite of a binge watcher, their favorite subscriber.

I honestly think it’s cuz Prime Video acquired Thursday Night Football a few yrs ago, as well as boxing more recently. This is Netflix’s response to that.

[Lefty0616]

I don't like Paul's success at all and will be rooting for Tyson. Tyson, only has a puncher's chance however. And he must score his knockout within 2 rounds. If the fight goes past 2, he will most likely lose. He doesn't have the stamina to survive a long fight.