Comments Thread For: The only thing the Conor Benn case proves is that boxing is ill-equipped to deal with positive tests

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  • MichaelT123
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    #11
    It is clear that most boxing publications have little understanding, or pretend to have little understanding of how PEDs work and the agreements agents and promotional companies have with testing agencies.

    Clomiphene is rarely used on its own.
    Clomiphene is typically used following a cycle of steroids or testosterone as it helps to mitigate the side effects of a cycle of steroids.
    Clomiphene is typically used to bring testosterone levels back to normal after using these other, more potent PEDs.

    Furthermore, the excuse of contaminated supplements is, in any case, a poor excuse. It is well known that many sports supplements are purposefully contaminated with drugs that do not appear on the label. It is also well known that clean, tested and certified supplements can be bought for little additional expense. Any competitive athlete should be using certified clean supplements. To not do so is either reckless or an intentional way of sourcing PEDs with a built in excuse.

    Finally, it is established that some promotional companies have non disclosure agreements with testing agencies. This allows an athlete to test positive, and the positive test to be kept quiet. In some cases a hearing may occur, the athlete serves a ban quietly and then returns to action.

    Why then, do sports journalists usually fail to talk about any of these things? Either they are complicit in this behavior or they lack knowledge on the very subject they are reporting.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #12
      Originally posted by MichaelT123
      It is clear that most boxing publications have little understanding, or pretend to have little understanding of how PEDs work and the agreements agents and promotional companies have with testing agencies.

      Clomiphene is rarely used on its own.
      Clomiphene is typically used following a cycle of steroids or testosterone as it helps to mitigate the side effects of a cycle of steroids.
      Clomiphene is typically used to bring testosterone levels back to normal after using these other, more potent PEDs.

      Furthermore, the excuse of contaminated supplements is, in any case, a poor excuse. It is well known that many sports supplements are purposefully contaminated with drugs that do not appear on the label. It is also well known that clean, tested and certified supplements can be bought for little additional expense. Any competitive athlete should be using certified clean supplements. To not do so is either reckless or an intentional way of sourcing PEDs with a built in excuse.

      Finally, it is established that some promotional companies have non disclosure agreements with testing agencies. This allows an athlete to test positive, and the positive test to be kept quiet. In some cases a hearing may occur, the athlete serves a ban quietly and then returns to action.

      Why then, do sports journalists usually fail to talk about any of these things? Either they are complicit in this behavior or they lack knowledge on the very subject they are reporting.
      Fantastic post and agree with every word.

      Great to see someone else commenting on this topic who actually understands it.

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      • thack
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        #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        They don’t have a choice but to give him his license back because Conor Benn won his hearing with them you MORON!!!!!!!

        The only way they can deny him his license if they appeal the decision of the hearing that they lost and they’ve got 21 days to do so.

        How many times are you going to repeat that he has “refused to engage with the board” when he has had not one but TWO hearings with them !!!!!!????

        What you are saying is objectively and factually the opposite to reality.
        Like I've said we'll arnage meet , you seem good at calling out people behind the key board , lets see how that translates.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Originally posted by thack

          Like I've said we'll arnage meet , you seem good at calling out people behind the key board , let’s see how that translates.
          You’ve never said that once you soft cunt

          Why do you insist on lying and saying Conor Benn has “refused to engage with the board” when he’s had TWO hearings with them now?

          Is there a reason?

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          • elfag
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            #15
            theres so much money lost if they cancel a fight due to a test.


            its not like a NFL game if someone pops they can just bench them and the game goes on everyone still makes money.

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            • BustedKnuckles
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              #16
              Originally posted by brettWall
              The entirety of the sport is corrupt. Which includes testing bodies. They are selective in who they want to expose. It's almost on a random basis. One or two exposures every year out of hundreds of fighters is proof they have no credibility. People should expect at least 10 - 15 positive tests a year. AT LEAST... 80% - 90% can't be all clean.
              Good comment. I would add that it's def not random a lot of times, though. They don't go after money-makers in most cases. They choose to punish nobodies to have an air of legitimacy.

              But true that whatever testing they do is a joke if most fighters test clean.

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