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    Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez defended his WBC junior bantamweight title with a third-round stoppage of Pedro Guevara last night at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia. Now, the 24-year-old champ is looking to unify the division - or, if those opportunities don't come - he may consider moving up in weight.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by jin-songtsen
    Look at bam's last 5 opponents, Cuadras 34 and washed coming of a loss and 2 years of inactivity. Rungvisai 35 and washed coming from 16 month inactivity. Edwards pillow fisted loud mouth. Estrada 34 and coming from 2 years of inactivity. Guevara 35 and 108 pounder. And chocolatito is about to turn 38. So it's easy for bam to out maneuver and out power them. I would love if bam fights a young guy like Junto Nakatani.
    You are a hater and I´m sure your favorite fighters have fought bums. Bam is only 24 and those he defeated were still solid fighters, you are disrespecting them and look stup1d at it. Your envy on Mexican boxers sounds dumb and racist. If Bam beats a young fighter like him, the excuses will skyrocket "too young", " inexperienced", "no power", wtc. Get a life, bum.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by budfr View Post

      You are a hater and I´m sure your favorite fighters have fought bums. Bam is only 24 and those he defeated were still solid fighters, you are disrespecting them and look stup1d at it. Your envy on Mexican boxers sounds dumb and racist. If Bam beats a young fighter like him, the excuses will skyrocket "too young", " inexperienced", "no power", wtc. Get a life, bum.
      Wonder if he would be saying this if it was Nakatani that beat them. They might be aged fighters but physically Cuadras, Rungvisai and Estrada would still compete at the top level and their skills should be above the average champion at Super Flyweight.

      These fighters certainly beat the opponents Nakatani had beaten so far at 115-118.
      Last edited by Malvado; 11-11-2024, 01:53 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jin-songtsen
        Look at bam's last 5 opponents, Cuadras 34 and washed coming of a loss and 2 years of inactivity. Rungvisai 35 and washed coming from 16 month inactivity. Edwards pillow fisted loud mouth. Estrada 34 and coming from 2 years of inactivity. Guevara 35 and 108 pounder. And chocolatito is about to turn 38. So it's easy for bam to out maneuver and out power them. I would love if bam fights a young guy like Junto Nakatani.
        We'd ALL love to see Bam go up to fight Nakatani.

        One can argue nearly anything with words but it seems some ppl still dksa either the most recent crop of Super Fly legends, or taking every opportunity to build a fighter into a star smh.

        Young lion vs Legend fights are generally (for different reasons) a blessing to each fighter & to us, the audience. Did you not see Gallo knock Bam down, or douchebag Nery knock down Inoue?
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        • #5
          Bam is young, strong, fast, deadly, accomplished and polite. He is a pleasure to watch. What is there not to like?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jin-songtsen

            I would be saying that as Estrada ducked both nakatani and ioka.
            Nakatani didn't even last year at 115 and wasn't even Estrada's mandatory as he was the WBC champion.

            Nakatani went for the WBO route beating Cortes and Moloney, then the actual champion at those rankings Kazuto Ioka vacated the belt in 2023 to retain his WBA belt he controversially won against Joshua Franco in a rematch after getting a gift draw, making Nakatani vs Moloney a WBO title bout, which he didn't even defend after.

            The same Kazuto Ioka your mentioning had lost to lesser fighters in Amnat Ruenroeng and a diminished Donnie Nietes after four years in the rematch. Difficult to think any elite fighters was going their way to avoid him, he just doesn't offer a lucrative fight.
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            Last edited by Malvado; 11-11-2024, 02:57 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jin-songtsen

              I ain't a hater I just want to see bam against junto. Which I'm sure you do too. And how are they solid fighters they were all inactive and old. Fight junto nakatani who is young and very powerful. Bam vacated his wbc belt to avoid junto. You think junto is too young for bam haha. Junto will end that hypejob. That's why he keeps ducking him. Ducked him at both 112 and 115. Just watch bam won't move up to 118 until junto leaves. And I know you are scared of bam fighting junto that's why you don't want the fight to happen.

              And why the fuçk would I envy Mexican boxers lol they are the easiest, that's why I want junto to expose him. So SHUT THE FUÇK UP BUM A$$ Mexican STREET FOOL.
              There isn't many outstanding elite contenders below 108-122 from Mexico at the moment, but Historically in title bouts, Mexico still has the edge winning 62 of the 121 fights, compared to Japan's 56.​

              Nakatani's fundamentals has been taught by a American of Mexican descent in Rudy Hernandez since the beginning until now.

              And Just recently Naoya Inoue had been dropped by Luis Nery whose althoufh most highly rated of the three Mexican fighters had had beaten. A single division former champion and a hard hitter, he was by no means a Marco Antonio Barrera or Erik Morales.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jin-songtsen

                Except nakatani wanted to unify with Estrada who ducked so disappointed junto left for 118. Ioka said he had unification agreed with Estrada but at the last seconds he backed out.
                Against Ioka, Estrada wanted to fight in United States instead of fighting in his opponent's home territory in Japan. The bout collapsed when a lucrative offer by Hearn in the trilogy against Chocolatito’ Gonzalez.

                If Nakatani wanted to fight Estrada so badly he would stucked longer than 10 months at 115. Maybe then a fight would had been proposed to both parties if he became the mandatory.

                It also be pretty dumb if Estrada also based a career altering decision of moving up to 118 to just face a single opponent in Nakatani.
                Last edited by Malvado; 11-11-2024, 03:49 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jin-songtsen

                  You forgeting Pacquiao the Mexicutioner. Look what Donaire did to Mexican fighter. He put a dent on Montiel's face. Also post fight Nery himself said the Knockdown wasn't real as it was feet entanglement. And Inoue said he didn't even take the fight seriously and still dominated. I told you Mexican are easy. And Barrera and Morales are easy shown by Pacquiao. And junto trained in japan until he left for America at 15.

                  Dude just be honest say you don't want bam against junto. And there is nothing to be a shamed of.
                  Pacquiao was a prodigy yet even he hit a wall against a declining Erik Morales at 130 and Juan Manuel Marquez who debatably beat him X2 in a division he doesn't even belong in at 38-40 years of age. Barrera is a more skilled fighter compared to Morales and Marquez as a boxer puncher, but just doesn't have the punching power to deter or compete against Pacquiao's combinations.

                  Donaire himself also had lost to two random Mexican fighters in Magdaleno and Santiago, his only notably win over a great Mexican fighter was a HOF heavily declined Flyweight Jorge Arce.

                  Naoya Inoue was quite stunned and was in survival mode for two minutes after he was dropped, feet entanglement or not. Morales would had slumped him on to the canvas by round 8-12 after dropping him 1-2 times and Barrera would had outboxed the shorter fighter on UD. They are just bigger and more accomplished, no shame in losing to them.

                  I want to see Bam fight Martinez/Ioka II winner and move up to Bantamweight after to fight Nakatani, I believe his footwork with angles, punching power and skills will pull him the win.

                  I seen Nakatani hit with multiple overhands and uppercuts in the inside which had put him in trouble, his saving grace was his punching power coupled with his height and distance management over these limited opponents. Which will be neutralized by Bam who will in-fight.
                  Last edited by Malvado; 11-11-2024, 04:42 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jin-songtsen

                    You forgeting Pacquiao the Mexicutioner. Look what Donaire did to Mexican fighter. Ended Jorge Arce's career, put a dent on Montiel's face. Look what Donnie Nietes did to Mexican fighters. Look what Uchiyama did to mexican fighters. He put them out on stretchers.

                    Also post fight Nery himself said the Knockdown wasn't even real as it was feet entanglement. And he said he didn't attack inoue cause he wasn't hurt. While Inoue said he didn't even take the fight seriously and still dominated. I told you Mexican are easy.

                    And Barrera and Morales are easy, monster will crush them without even taking it seriously, just like Pacquiao. And junto trained in japan until he left for America at 15. Dude just be honest say you don't want bam against junto. And there is nothing to be a shamed of.
                    I don't tend to bother to cut into an arguement between two individuals but could you not twist words of other boxers just to make it fit your narrative? Not once, NOT ONCE has Inoue ever said he didn't take the Nery fight (or any fight for that matter) seriously.

                    Has he said that he was a bit too excited about the fight, the atmosphere and the meaning and was not as careful as he should've been? Yes.
                    Has he said (prior to the fight) that he wanted to win in an absolutely defining way (aka dominant KO)? Yes.
                    Has he said that he didn't take the Nery fight seriously? Never.

                    I would like to see the article or interview or anything that says so because I read quite a lot of them and never came by a legit source. I don't mind it if it is in Japanese because I understand it too.

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