"Warrior" Pac?

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  • abdiel2k3
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    #21
    Originally posted by m00ks
    Nah he rallied against JMM. And he went for broke in this fight. He asked for immediate rematches in both fights so why would he do that if he was having doubts in himself. But I do agree that he had an epiphany against Morales, not so much as "Maybe I shouldn't be boxing", the guy accomplished a lot already even in his early career, but more like "I can't run over everyone like I pressumed"
    askin for a rematch doesnt mean hes the same
    im pretty sure taylor wanted a rematch and got it later
    but nuff bout taylor

    i just think that when pac left that ring he wasnt the same
    as much as he tries to be
    he just isnt
    add the fact that his styles simply been figured out
    at this point i think its best for him to just try to perfect his own relentless robotic attack
    and hope for the best
    he wanted so much to box and show he wasnt one dimensional in this fight
    and hes just failed miserably

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    • m00ks
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      #22
      Originally posted by abdiel2k3
      askin for a rematch doesnt mean hes the same
      im pretty sure taylor wanted a rematch and got it later
      but nuff bout taylor

      i just think that when pac left that ring he wasnt the same
      as much as he tries to be
      he just isnt
      add the fact that his styles simply been figured out
      at this point i think its best for him to just try to perfect his own relentless robotic attack
      and hope for the best
      he wanted so much to box and show he wasnt one dimensional in this fight
      and hes just failed miserably
      We'll see. Time will tell. But trying to outbox Erik Morales ain't exactly the simplest task specially coming from a natural brawler and loosing to the latter is nothing to to be ashamed off, heck wha 47 fighters suffered the same fate. Hopefully he can bounce back, he brings ****e into the devision.

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      • abdiel2k3
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        #23
        Originally posted by m00ks
        We'll see. Time will tell. But trying to outbox Erik Morales ain't exactly the simplest task specially coming from a natural brawler and loosing to the latter is nothing to to be ashamed off, heck wha 47 fighters suffered the same fate. Hopefully he can bounce back, he brings ****e into the devision.
        def brings ****e
        and i hope he can bounce back
        hes fun to watch
        but i really just think hes gone as high as hes gonna go

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        • m00ks
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          #24
          Originally posted by abdiel2k3
          def brings ****e
          and i hope he can bounce back
          hes fun to watch
          but i really just think hes gone as high as hes gonna go
          Well if it is, it's gone high enough for a kid who started at 106. But I'm pretty sure we'll see him back. Pit him with another slugger/puncher and you got yourself a good fight.

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          • abdiel2k3
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            #25
            Originally posted by m00ks
            Well if it is, it's gone high enough for a kid who started at 106. But I'm pretty sure we'll see him back. Pit him with another slugger/puncher and you got yourself a good fight.
            exactly
            but unfortuantly for him
            the top guys are more then just sluggers

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            • jenson69
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              #26
              Manny is defintely one of the ultimate warriors of the sport. But I think in his next fight he should train in a secluded area (like area 51 lol) so he can properly train and rest and avoid distractions (no press no fans). Next time he should train like a warrior that he is and not the celebrity like in the rocky movies...

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              • Moon
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                #27
                Originally posted by abdiel2k3
                personaly
                i think it may have already happened
                thats why erik was able to play with him as much as he did
                no doubt a pre jmm pac would have still lost to erik
                Agreed. Manny showed all the warrior stuff imaginable last Saturday, but I don't believe he can keep rollin' through 12-rounds of war, followed by another 12-rounder, and then another, like Morales and Barrera have done. My guess is that Manny won't ever beat Morales or JMM, but might get a decision against Barrera.

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                • abdiel2k3
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Munn
                  Agreed. Manny showed all the warrior stuff imaginable last Saturday, but I don't believe he can keep rollin' through 12-rounds of war, followed by another 12-rounder, and then another, like Morales and Barrera have done. My guess is that Manny won't ever beat Morales or JMM, but might get a decision against Barrera.
                  idk
                  if theres a MAB rematch dont ya think itll be at 130
                  i mean mabs got a title thier
                  and its usually better to fight for a title
                  altho the 1st fight he had no problem leaven the belt

                  but at 130 i say MAB easy
                  at 126 i say MAB in a tuffer fight

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                  • Moon
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jenson69
                    Manny is defintely one of the ultimate warriors of the sport. But I think in his next fight he should train in a secluded area (like area 51 lol) so he can properly train and rest and avoid distractions (no press no fans).
                    Manny and his team can have all the seclusion, training and rest they like and Morales still wins.

                    Manny's improved training situation will not improve his power, because he's already peaked in that department. Morales' chin is not going to suddenly shatter the next time around, IMO.

                    For every day of "ideal" training that Manny has, so will Erik. Then the training ends, and the fighting begins.

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                    • SnoopySmurf
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Munn
                      Manny and his team can have all the seclusion, training and rest they like and Morales still wins.

                      Manny's improved training situation will not improve his power, because he's already peaked in that department. Morales' chin is not going to suddenly shatter the next time around, IMO.

                      For every day of "ideal" training that Manny has, so will Erik. Then the training ends, and the fighting begins.
                      Manny needs to learn how to fight the way Barrera fought Morales - fight inside. Smother the punches, throw some uppercuts. If he adds these to his aresenal, he'll stand a better chance against Morales.

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