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  • Moon
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    "Warrior" Pac?

    No question Pac showed "warrior" heart on Saturday night.

    It will now be interseting to see Pac's response to having "gone to war" for twelve rounds, as the top Feathers often do. I wonder if warrior Pac will keep up with the other warriors at feather when he faces one or more 12 round wars at the hands of a Mexican?

    Maybe it's the next fight that Pac will suddenly look "old", because of the mental game that gets played-out in his head, when he realizes "****, that guy just took my best shot again".

    Pac needed this win and would not be well advised to go straight to a rematch with Erik. In either case, I see Pac loosing to all three Mexicans in his next fight, if he chooses one of them. Barrera has been quite quiet, knowing his time will come, when he'll show Pac that he was, in fact, "not himself" in their first fight. I not sure tat I belive him, but I think Pac should be talking to Barrera's people right now. It the safest of the possible "wars" he will face.
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    i do beg to disagree with you my friend, round one against the 3Ms PAC went 1-1-1, with this set back I won't go that far as PAC going 0-3 with these guys, remember he is young and still learning, with the experience gained on championship level against MAB, JMM & now EM, it will only make him better ...

    can't wait for the second round ...

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    • cvt
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      #3
      pac went up against the best mexico has to offer in so little time. give him time to rest and re-group. he went 35 rounds with MAB, JMM, and Morales.

      what he needs to do is get a good and compact right hook and left upper-cut combo (did anyone notice that when pac got in close to smother morlaes he counld fight in the inside like MAB did??). pac also needs to get some poise and learn some laterall movement and not back up straight and flail is arms like a dead fish (it's uneconomical movement and it looks real bad for the judges scoring).

      every guy around here seems to give pac is props for surving...so i'll take this time to give morales much respect for taking on a dangerous opponent after a hard fight with his mexican rival just months earlier.

      ...it's funny, but it seems like the little guys will save boxing..

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      • whdempsey
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        #4
        Originally posted by Munn
        No question Pac showed "warrior" heart on Saturday night.

        It will now be interseting to see Pac's response to having "gone to war" for twelve rounds, as the top Feathers often do. I wonder if warrior Pac will keep up with the other warriors at feather when he faces one or more 12 round wars at the hands of a Mexican?

        Maybe it's the next fight that Pac will suddenly look "old", because of the mental game that gets played-out in his head, when he realizes "****, that guy just took my best shot again".

        Pac needed this win and would not be well advised to go straight to a rematch with Erik. In either case, I see Pac loosing to all three Mexicans in his next fight, if he chooses one of them. Barrera has been quite quiet, knowing his time will come, when he'll show Pac that he was, in fact, "not himself" in their first fight. I not sure tat I belive him, but I think Pac should be talking to Barrera's people right now. It the safest of the possible "wars" he will face.
        He's not gonna get old any time soon. He's gonna drop back down and get revenge on Marquez, though, and then try to lure some of the bigger name 122 pounders up in weight.

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        • lapulapu
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          #5
          Originally posted by whdempsey
          He's not gonna get old any time soon. He's gonna drop back down and get revenge on Marquez, though, and then try to lure some of the bigger name 122 pounders up in weight.

          Agree that Pac should go down to 126 and fight Marquez. Coz no way JMM will go up 130 to fight. He got 2 titles at 126.

          But after Marquez, Pacman should concentrate on MAB and EM. Coz the fights with these 2 Mexicans is the only challenge for him. Nobody will be thrilled if he beats Larios or any other guy whose name is not Barerra or Morales. When Pac beats these two, then I say he can retire if he wants to.

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          • Super_Lightweight
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            #6
            hmm

            Come on now, let's not jump the gun. Pac lost a close but clear to decision to Morales. It would be pretty unreasonable to assume that Pac would not be able to get a close but clear victory over Erik if he trained harder and blitzed him like he did to JMM and MAB.

            Or, Erik may always beat Pac...we will see in my opinion because I believe they will fight each othe again. The circumstances in a couple years will demand it (in my opinion) because there are only so many guys in these weight classes, and they all fight the best...which means fighting each other.

            Perhaps MAB had a legit excuse in losing to ac, but he lost BADLY. Pac won every round pretty much. I could see MAB beating him but, as with a rematch between Pac an Morales, we don't know, but we will find out.

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            • m00ks
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              #7
              Manny was made for Erik. Morales used his size and reach advantage to perfection and he did his homework.

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              • lapulapu
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                #8
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                Come on now, let's not jump the gun. Pac lost a close but clear to decision to Morales. It would be pretty unreasonable to assume that Pac would not be able to get a close but clear victory over Erik if he trained harder and blitzed him like he did to JMM and MAB.

                Or, Erik may always beat Pac...we will see in my opinion because I believe they will fight each othe again. The circumstances in a couple years will demand it (in my opinion) because there are only so many guys in these weight classes, and they all fight the best...which means fighting each other.

                Perhaps MAB had a legit excuse in losing to ac, but he lost BADLY. Pac won every round pretty much. I could see MAB beating him but, as with a rematch between Pac an Morales, we don't know, but we will find out.

                I think these 4 fighters almost even. That winning and losing is quite narrow. That any relaxation on anyone of them will be taken advantage of by the other in the fight. So I still think Morales cannot relax coz he beat Pacman by a lousy UD. Erik will train doubly hard if they have a rematch.

                Pacman should stop being a celebrity next time he fights. Avoid those autograph signing and photoshoots. Pac must buckle down real tight.

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                • Moon
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by m00ks
                  Manny was made for Erik. Morales used his size and reach advantage to perfection and he did his homework.
                  Strage how those same words were thrown around freely when Pac beat Barrera ... he was made for Pac (on that ngiht anyway).

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                  • czars_salad
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cvt
                    ...it's funny, but it seems like the little guys will save boxing..
                    what made this division very interesting is that, four of the p4p greats of today all belong to this division, with rafael marquez making headways. this is probably the most unpredictable division today, and it has been this way for the past four years, and probably for the next four years more.

                    by that time, i believe, philippines has alot more to offer with the likes of z gorres and rey bautista go out of their nests.

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