Why haven’t we seen any new Boxers athletic as Roy Jones ?

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  • StoptheFight
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    #51
    Roy Jones was perhaps the best athlete I've ever seen. Definitely the best athlete fighter(Boxing, MMA, etc). You just don't get guys like that very often, even once a generation.

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    • Boxfan83
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      #52
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

      Wrong. The NFL takes the best Football players, not the best fighters.

      The NBA takes the best Basketball players, not the best fighters.

      ....and only a few of them, in fact.

      What "Great athleticism" is, differs widely by sport; lest we have Sumo Wrestlers dominaing in Tennis.

      And the UFC ?????
      Heck no. Not ever!!!!

      NOBODY who has the ingredients to make it in boxing would EVER bother with the much lower wages and respect offered by MMA.

      That would be akin to getting a law or medical degree so that you can get a job sweeping the floor.

      Check your logic there.
      I do believe boxers are the better athletes over MMArtists but at this point, UFC makes a lot more upper middle class fighters than boxing and I'd argue the average UFC fighter is more popular than the average boxer.

      I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing more amatuer boxers transfer to MMA.

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      • Gary Coleman
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        #53
        I would say Boots is probably the closest thing, athletically, but not as talented obviously.

        Give him some PEDs like Roy and who knows.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Gary Coleman
          I would say Boots is probably the closest thing, athletically, but not as talented obviously.

          Give him some PEDs like Roy and who knows.
          Was Roy truly bust for PEDs? I wasn't watching boxing when he was in his prime so I never followed him until the tail end of his career. My first live fight with him was watching Glen Johnson maul him.

          That said, if he was on PEDs, I feel like will make someone that already has great genetics and talent, that much better, especially when it comes to the reflects and fast twitch muscles. From the highlight clips I've seen of Roy in his prime, he was quite unique.

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            #55
            Originally posted by ELPacman

            Was Roy truly bust for PEDs? I wasn't watching boxing when he was in his prime so I never followed him until the tail end of his career. My first live fight with him was watching Glen Johnson maul him.

            That said, if he was on PEDs, I feel like will make someone that already has great genetics and talent, that much better, especially when it comes to the reflects and fast twitch muscles. From the highlight clips I've seen of Roy in his prime, he was quite unique.
            Watch his early fights pre Hopkins and you should be able to formulate your own opinion.

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            • Haka
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              #56
              Roy was good but he has ducked Dariusz Michalczewski, and was too much into PEDS to really know what his true form was like.
              Last edited by Haka; 11-19-2024, 01:44 PM.

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              • Gary Coleman
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                #57
                Originally posted by ELPacman

                Was Roy truly bust for PEDs? I wasn't watching boxing when he was in his prime so I never followed him until the tail end of his career. My first live fight with him was watching Glen Johnson maul him.

                That said, if he was on PEDs, I feel like will make someone that already has great genetics and talent, that much better, especially when it comes to the reflects and fast twitch muscles. From the highlight clips I've seen of Roy in his prime, he was quite unique.
                Roy Jones Jr. and Richard Hall both tested positive for the testosterone precursor androstenedione after Jones defeated Hall to retain his undisputed world light heavyweight championship in Indianapolis in 2000. Jones insisted his test was the result of ingesting the supplement Ripped Fuel. - ESPN

                Indiana Boxing Commissioner Jacob Hall admitted that Jones had tested "five or six times over an acceptable level".

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                • GhostofDempsey
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                  #58
                  "Athletic" is a broad term and why are we only going back 7 years? Lomachenko was/is certainly an athletic boxer who demonstrated amazing reflexes, quickness, angles and footwork at his best. So far as we know he isn't using steroids either like Roy.

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Quite literally what it does.

                    Obviously you need the genetic make up to attain that but it's still exactly the purpose of the PEDs.
                    Then, again, why haven't we seen another Roy Jones or Jon Jones if PEDs is what made them freaks of nature?

                    Millions of people have access to PEDs, still only a few freaks of nature
                    Last edited by The D3vil; 11-19-2024, 05:23 PM.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The D3vil

                      Then, again, why haven't we seen another Roy Jones or Jon Jones if PEDs is what made them freaks of nature?

                      Millions of people have access to PEDs, still only a few freaks of nature
                      Can you read mate? What part aren't you getting?

                      Because Roy Jones is already gifted genetically, so when you ADD the assistance of PED's, that will make someone of that description a freak of nature.

                      PED's don't automatically make you a freak of nature, you need to have the receptive genetics to go with the assistance but your statement of "PED's don't make you a freak of nature" is FALSE. That is the epitome of that they do, they assist your performance beyond your natural capability.

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