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  • #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    Ok but that's irrelevant.

    They are genetically gifted, added PED assistance is what makes them freaks of nature. That's the literal purpose of PED's.
    They were born "freaks of nature".

    PEDs made them inhuman, which is beyond "freak of nature".

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    • #42
      Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

      They were born "freaks of nature"

      PEDs made them inhuman, which is beyond "freak of nature".
      That's just semantics.

      Roy Jones "freak of nature" capabilities likely came from his PED use. It is what PED's do to the human body.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        That's just semantics.

        Roy Jones "freak of nature" capabilities likely came from his PED use. It is what PED's do to the human body.
        Then, why aren't all the other guys taking PEDs doing what Roy was doing in the '90s, which is exactly the point of the entire damn thread.

        Guys have better, less traceable PEDs today and yet none of them are doing what Roy was doing, physically in the '90s?

        Why because Roy Jones was BORN a freak of nature, like I said.

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        • #44
          The athleticism is there. It's just that roy did a lot of things that are unconventional. Most boxers today are too textbook and don't think out of the box.

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          • #45
            Roy was just gifted for whatever reason its like some guys can run the 100m in or around close to 10 seconds without even training. Genetics really.

            But I do think part certainly comes down to training these days its more S&C based back then Roy played a lot of basketball which I think lent to making him so athletic, other fighters back in the day who was more athletic often did some sort of dancing or ballet.
            These days its too much based on S&C, a lot of strength training and more emphasis on recovery than being fluid and staying loose.

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            • #46
              Usyk is another rather than all this S&C and practically training more like a bodybuilder he is forever dancing and acting goofy, he also does judo, sambo among other martial arts.
              Gifted, better coaching and does other sports or activities which lend to it

              A lot of the great boxers did some form of dancing.

              Look at CBS that is a perfect example of todays athletes. A very tough guy but just that likely does a ton of S&C. No athleticism, bulky, heavy on his feet, terrible mechanics and arm punching while his feet are stuck in mud. Fighters should always be taught feet first and there should be more focus there.
              Your feet are everything, they are what will get you in and out of trouble.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                Then, why aren't all the other guys taking PEDs doing what Roy was doing in the '90s, which is exactly the point of the entire damn thread.

                Guys have better, less traceable PEDs today and yet none of them are doing what Roy was doing, physically in the '90s?

                Why because Roy Jones was BORN a freak of nature, like I said.
                You aren't seeming to get it.

                PED's do what they say on the tin, they enhance your performance.

                So genetically gifted athletes, BECOME freaks of nature with the assistance of PED's.

                You said PED's don't make you a freak of nature, when that is literally what they do.

                It doesn't make everyone a freak of nature, you need the the responsive genetics make up but it still doesn't change the fact you are just factually wrong in your assessment.

                You don't have the first clue about this topic so I don't for the life of me understand why you pass comment on it.

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                • #48
                  Peds when we know Roy popped dirty before......

                  My boxing eye look at the 80s and 90s and see the shyt compared to now, and says it had to be and serious ped problem then....I look at guys like SRL and Roy that ain't natural

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post


                    It doesn't make everyone a freak of nature, you need the the responsive genetics make up
                    Then, it doesn't make you a freak of nature

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                      Then, it doesn't make you a freak of nature
                      Quite literally what it does.

                      Obviously you need the genetic make up to attain that but it's still exactly the purpose of the PEDs.

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