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  • #21
    I find it eerie that Fury was quiet (for him) & focused, full training camp beard on & looking lean for him at this stage.
    This might be the most focused Fury since Klitschko, question is have his legs gone?
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    • #22
      I Hope Uysk wins the rematch; I thought Fury looked subdued yesterday in the press conference; bit like a wild dog that had been tamed.

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      • #23
        I hope Usyk wins again and definitively. Good fight and all but its time to conclude this and move on.

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        • #24
          The MW will win even easier this time around

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          • #25
            Reckon this will be even closer this time round. Predicting a stoppage.

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            • #26
              Just read about Fury's wife's miscarriage on the eve of the last fight 6 months in. Sorry for your loss champ.
              I said earlier Fury seemed eerie & not himself, i think like Ngannou, Fury's been using it in camp with a different perspective.
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              • #27
                Tyson Fury will most likely come into this fight heavier, and attempt to stand his ground more 'Instead of backing up all night, and expending unnecessary energy. Tyson Fury was done by round 6 and 7, vs Oleksandr Uysk in their first fight. Fury actually managed the pace of the fight, worst than Anthony Joshua did in both of his fights vs Oleksandr Uysk'.

                I stated during the build up to the first fight, that once Tyson Fury becomes fatigued 'Due to Fury not being as technically correct, and fundamentally sound as Joshua. Fury will begin to produce more unforced errors, which may see him being whacked. That is what happened in that 9th round, Fury as he always does in top level fights? Made a unforced clumsy error, and was whacked by a elite level fighter in Usyk'.

                I have been thinking more deeply about this rematch, and? I don't believe that Tyson Fury is just going to wade forward 'When two Super Heavyweight Fighters, like Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua opt to just wade forward vs a classical physique styled Heavyweight fighter like Uysk. The Super Heavyweight Fighters are essentially in that moment, making the fight stylistically more easier for Oleksandr Uysk'.

                I have spoken about this before in my previous posts. Although I rate Oleksandr Uysk extremely highly, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.

                Note: A great Super Heavyweight fighter, should be able just to stick their jab out against Oleksandr Uysk 'Win the battle of the jabs, and dominate from mid to long range. That will not be easy, because Uysk is a great boxer. But up against a peak Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiltschko? I would back Lewis and Kiltschko to eventually win that battle. From this point, Lewis's and Kiltschko's opponents were forced to then try and ether ambush them or apply pressure. Their opponent's would be tied up on the inside, and wrestled to then be pushed off and bombarded from mid to long range'.

                What I have just described there was the classical big man style fight 'That Lennox Lewis and The Kiltschko's tactically used in all their most dominant performances'.

                In my opinion tactically this is the type of fight, Tyson Fury needs to execute vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Not backing up all night, pulling faces and fatiguing by round 6 to 7. In reality, tactically that is the type of fight Tyson Fury executed during their first fight. Skill for skill, in terms of pure boxing? I would still rate Tyson Fury's performance vs Oleksandr Uysk I, as his best skill for skill pure boxing fight since Wladimir Kiltschko. I have stated this many times before, and Tyson Fury himself yesterday concurred with my opinion'.

                ​Oleksandr Uysk in this rematch, is the more reactive fighter 'The theme of this entire match up, is all about Tyson Fury. What version of Tyson Fury is going to appear this time around? Is Tyson Fury going to be heavier? Is Fury going to wade forward, or is he going to box from mid to long range?'.

                In comparison, Oleksandr Uysk is most likely going to be around 220 pounds again 'He may be abit heavier or lighter. And tactically he is ether going to pressure Fury again, or fight a more classical fundamental boxing fight with the emphasis of out scoring Fury. The one area where I think Uysk can improve by quite a distance, is his surprisingly his conditioning and endurance'.

                I have watched Oleksandr Uysk vs Anthony Joshua I & II 'And then compared his performance's vs Tyson Fury. Uysk's work rate and intensity, was superior vs Anthony Joshua​ I & II. Both Fury and Uysk were fatigued in their fight, it was just that Oleksandr Uysk managed and fight through that fatigue better than Fury'.

                I think all the postponements of the fight, effected Oleksandr Uysk's preparation 'Uysk is very scientific in his approach to training, team Uysk are all about periodisation, training cycles and peak performance. If people understand the concepts which I am talking about? Then you will know, that Uysk would of been up and down in his training due to all the postponements and disruption'.

                To conclude: So therefore, if Oleksandr Uysk is going to improve 'It will be in that area. Plus, Uysk now also has more experienced at fighting Tyson Fury. Uysk beat Fury in a manner, which many people thought was not possible before their first fight. Oleksandr Uysk backed up Tyson Fury all night, and smashed him up in the 9th round'.

                All those factors are data points and statistically information, that has been downloaded into Oleksandr Uysk psyche 'We don't know, the level of effect that will have on this second fight. Tyson Fury seems not to be acknowledging, or putting to much worth on being smashed by Oleksandr Uysk in that 9th round. This is kind of reminiscent to Lennox Lewis during the build up to his second fight vs Hasim Rahman'.

                Notice the difference to how Tyson Fury acknowledged that Deontay Wilder 'Numerous times hurt him badly, and almost removed him from this realm of reality. Tyson Fury is not acknowledging or giving Oleksandr Uysk that same level of credit'.

                Many people may disagree with me when I say this? I don't actually think Tyson Fury rates Oleksandr Uysk, still even now after their first fight. Similar to the way Lennox Lewis did not rate Hasim Rahman, Fury in my opinion has not accepted that Uysk actually beat him for real. Fury has accepted that Uysk was given the decision, and that he is a good fighter. But he for sure, has not accepted that Oleksandr Uysk beat him for real, to the point where he has to acknowledge that he is the better fighter'.

                All of those factors, make it very difficult to anticipate which version of Tyson Fury is going to appear. And that is why I am saying that, Oleksandr Uysk is the more reactive fighter in this match up, he can mostly only prepare to brace himself for what is potentially going to appear'.

                Oleksandr Uysk is the favourite in the match up, but those multidimensional factors to Fury's game 'Are why I still give him a chance to win this rematch' etc.


                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-24-2024, 10:05 AM.
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                • #28
                  Oleksandr won the fight fair and square. [I’m] just looking to put on a great fight again. It was very close last time; he got it by a point.​
                  I watched about 3 interviews with Tyson about 4 weeks ago where he said he won the fight by 3-4 rounds. He was serious too. The guy is definitely crazy. He also looked terrible at that time. Hope he can get it together before the fight.

                  If Tyson comes in fit and ready I have Usyk 60/40 to win this fight, but that still gives Tyson a good chance. Should be a good one.Also now that Joshua looked terrible against Dubois - expect to see Tyson finally fight Joshua in the near future

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bob View Post
                    Just read about Fury's wife's miscarriage on the eve of the last fight 6 months in. Sorry for your loss champ.
                    I said earlier Fury seemed eerie & not himself, i think like Ngannou, Fury's been using it in camp with a different perspective.
                    That's not the reason he lost and not anything anyone needed to know.

                    That shït is better of keeping in the family!



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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Bob View Post
                      I find it eerie that Fury was quiet (for him) & focused, full training camp beard on & looking lean for him at this stage.
                      This might be the most focused Fury since Klitschko, question is have his legs gone?

                      I think he learned from the first fight that being a lonely clown doesn't get him the expected results ....

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