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  • Does the heavyweight division still have pressure fighters?

    After the 90’s I started to see less pressure fighters in the heavyweight division. Name some current pressure fighters in the division today no matter if they are contenders are gate-keepers or journey men

  • #2
    fury looked a bit under pressure last time he fought usyk
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    • #3
      Richard Torres jr aka young Tom Selleck

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      • #4
        No, I have many times during debates 'Mentioned that a hallmark trait, of the modern super Heavyweight era? Is that Heavyweight fighters, are less offensive at top level and all seem to lack inside game. Even fighters such as Tyson Fury, who is a fighter that many people regard as a complete fighter I.E Being able to fight in all areas of boxing, Long to Mid Range game, inside game and rough house tactics'.

        Go and make a comparison between Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, and Evander Holyfield 'And be honest with yourselves, rate Fury's inside game and offensive abilities skill for skill compared to those fighters. Fury skill for skill, and technically compared to many past great heavyweight fighters is not really that impressive with his inside game'.

        The observation you have made, can also be seen in all weight divisions 'The more and more you go beyond domestic level boxing. Maybe this a is a bi-product of the competitive culture in the sports? Fighters would much rather fight to out point their opponent's instead of destroying them, and decreasing the possibility of getting themselves whacked out? That is just a speculation'.

        In regards to the Modern Heavyweight Division, I would honestly say that Derek Chisora 'Has been the only Heavyweight fighter for the past decade, who is stylistically a classic pressure fighter. Chisora is stylistically a similar type of fighter to Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson, but of course a few levels below those past all-time great fighters'..

        To call a fighter a pressure fighter, these days people perceive this as being a less sophisticated fighter 'You only have to read, or listen to certain boxing pundits and their reaction to the outcome of Dimtri Bivol vs Arthur Beterbiev I'.​

        Note: Offense or being a pressure fighter is also a art, and in my opinion 'A elite level offense, combined with defense is potentially the most sophisticated style in the sport as you move up through the levels in the game. There is a reason why all-time great offensive fighters, appear like comets in the sport flashing through time. And I believe this may due to the processing speed that is necessary when a fighter is on the attack, and simultaneously also combining their defense. This is how all great pressure fighters, or fighters with great offenses have fought with that style. Because when Offense and Defense start to simultaneously operate together, those are the type of fighters stylistically who have sent shockwaves throughout the sport more intensely than any other style'

        Since Lennox Lewis became the last man standing from the late 80's and 90's Heavyweight era, and then the Kiltschko's dominated the Heavyweight Division and effectively were the Undisputed Heavyweight Champions of the World. Between both Kiltschko brothers they amassed all the major World Titles, Wladimir Kiltschko was the, Lineal Ring Magazine, WBA, WBO, IBF, and IBO World Heavyweight Champion. And Vitali Kiltschko was the WBC World Heavyweight Champion.

        This level of dominance, with the classical Super Heavyweight style 'I think may have had a effect on how Modern Heavyweight fighters approach competition. It just seems that most all Super Heavyweights, ultimately are trying to duplicate the style and dominance of Lennox Lewis and the Kiltschko's. But when you go through the resumes of both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, stylistically Fury and Joshua are losing to fighters that? Would of potentially have been very straight forward fights for Lennox Lewis and The Kiltschko's'.

        Although I rate Oleksandr Uysk extremely highly, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.

        Still in my opinion Lennox Lewis, or the Kiltschko's would not be embroiled in potential trilogy fights with Uysk. Stylistically Oleksandr Uysk is a straight forward fight for Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Kiltschko for sure.

        A great Super Heavyweight fighter, should be able just to stick their jab out against Oleksandr Uysk 'Win the battle of the jabs, and dominate from mid to long range. That will not be easy, because Uysk is a great boxer. But up against a peak Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiltschko? I would back Lewis and Kilschko to eventually win that battle. From this point, Lewis's and Kiltschko's opponent's were forced to then try and ether ambush them or apply pressure. Their opponent's would be tied up on the inside, and wrestled to then be pushed off and bombarded from mid to long range'.

        What I have just described there was the classical big man style fight 'That Lennox Lewis and The Kiltschko's tactically used in all their most dominant performances'.

        Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have both been unable tactically execute that style of fight vs Oleksandr Uysk 'Which does indicate, that compared to past Super Heavyweight Fighters, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua are not on their level. Peak for peak, Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Kiltschko were better Super Heavyweight Fighters'.

        David Haye was effectively the Oleksandr Uysk of his era 'But with game altering power, in the form of Hayemaker's. David Haye the Lineal Ring Magazine, WBC, WBA, WBO, Cruiserweight Champion. And Haye technically should of been the Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, Jean Marc Mormeck had beaten O'Neil bell who was the IBF World Champion and avenged a loss, but Bell was stripped of the IBF title'.

        To conclude: The main point, I am trying to make is? David Haye was my fighter 'But I will be honest. Wladimir Kiltschko made that fight, more straight forward than Fury and Joshua did against Oleksandr Uysk. Because that is what all-time great Super Heavyweights should do vs classical physique styled Heavyweights'.

        And the reason why Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, have had this big mighty struggle with Oleksandr Uysk 'Is because technically, their ability fight a big man styled fight thus far has not been on the level of Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Kiltschko. And then after this, they have not had a high level inside game to bring into the fight when Oleksandr Uysk was beating them at their own game'.

        The only top level that Tyson Fury has had a straightener with inside the boxing ring 'Was Deontay Wilder II & III. But Fury outweighed Wilder by over 40 pounds in all of the fights. Deontay Wilder was an aggressive fighter, and had serious power. But he is another fighter, that had almost zero inside game. So although Tyson Fury is a complete fighter, he can fight in all area's of boxing, his abilities are embellished by the level of the opponent's he ahs been fighting'.

        So yes, there are less pressure fighters from my observation in the Heavyweight Division. And there are less fighters with a developed inside game. I have stated many times in discussion's, that this has been a hallmark trait of this modern Super Heavyweight era' etc.


        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-23-2024, 11:29 AM.

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        • #5
          What about DDD? Dude ran after AJ pretty much to get the KO.

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          • #6
            Jared Anderson sure felt a lot of pressure in there when he fought Bakole

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            • #7
              Joyce, Dubois, Jarrell Miller, Bakole, Torres are all pressure fighters.
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              • #8
                Too many soft bodies to maintain pressure for longer than a few seconds a rd.

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