The Ring Reveals Their Latest P4P Rankings: Canelo "El Pato" Alvarez Now Removed in Top 5 for Excessive Cherrypicking and Dropped Down to #6. Beterbiev Moves Up to #4 and Bivol to #5 After Their War!

[BodyBagz]

No, Canelo does not have the best resume. He has two losses, two draws, a failed drug test, and some extremely questionable scorecard gifts on his resume.

He is a one division undisputed champion, unlike Crawford or Inoue or Usyk who are all two division undisputed champions.
He is a two division lineal champion, like Inoue and Usyk, but Crawford is a three division lineal champion.

The Golovkin saga will always be a permanent stain on Canelo's legacy.

First he vacated the WBC title to duck Golovkin.
Then he waited a year and got a gift draw in a fight he clearly lost in the first fight.
Then he popped for PEDs before the rematch, causing the fight to be delayed and the aging Golovkin to essentially waste a camp on Martirosyan.
Then he finally fought the rematch and was handed a gift win in another fight he clearly lost.
Then he waited four years and dragged the ancient Golovkin up to 168 for the trilogy. He actually did win that fight, but everyone knows the real story.

Post up Bud's, Beter's best W(s)
HWs should not be included.
GGG was only considered old when he fought Nelo

Next

[famicommander]

Post up Bud's, Beter's best W(s)
HWs should not be included.
GGG was only considered old when he fought Nelo

Next

Do you understand how linear time works? People age forwards at a rate of... one year per year. Try to keep up.

And no, Golovkin looked old against Derevyanchenko, Szeremeta, and Murata as well. Everyone noticed at the time of those fights and it was a topic of discussion. It's just that the faded version of him was enough to beat those guys. It's why even the people who acknowledge that GGG won the first two fights expected Canelo to win the third, which he did.

Usyk is a heavyweight now, but he started at cruiserweight. Where he was undisputed champion of the world. Then he moved to heavyweight and became undisputed champion of the world again. Pretty impressive when only two divisions were available to him, whereas Canelo has fought in four divisions and only been undisputed in one.

Beterbiev's best win is Bivol, who whooped Canelo's ass. That one was easy. His second best win was against Gvozdyk to claim the oldest active lineage in boxing going all the way back to Dawson v Pascal 14 years ago. Not even sure why you brought him up since we were talking about Inoue, Crawford, and Usyk but there you go.

Crawford's best wins are Errol Spence Jr to become undisputed and lineal at welterweight, Israil Madrimov to win a title in his fourth division at super welterweight, Viktor Postol to become unified and lineal at super lightweight, Ray Beltran to become lineal at lightweight, Ricky Burns to win his first world title, and Shawn Porter in a welterweight title defense.

[BodyBagz]

Do you understand how linear time works? People age forwards at a rate of... one year per year. Try to keep up.

And no, Golovkin looked old against Derevyanchenko, Szeremeta, and Murata as well. Everyone noticed at the time of those fights and it was a topic of discussion. It's just that the faded version of him was enough to beat those guys. It's why even the people who acknowledge that GGG won the first two fights expected Canelo to win the third, which he did.

Usyk is a heavyweight now, but he started at cruiserweight. Where he was undisputed champion of the world. Then he moved to heavyweight and became undisputed champion of the world again. Pretty impressive when only two divisions were available to him, whereas Canelo has fought in four divisions and only been undisputed in one.

Beterbiev's best win is Bivol, who whooped Canelo's ass. That one was easy. His second best win was against Gvozdyk to claim the oldest active lineage in boxing going all the way back to Dawson v Pascal 14 years ago. Not even sure why you brought him up since we were talking about Inoue, Crawford, and Usyk but there you go.

Crawford's best wins are Errol Spence Jr to become undisputed and lineal at welterweight, Israil Madrimov to win a title in his fourth division at super welterweight, Viktor Postol to become unified and lineal at super lightweight, Ray Beltran to become lineal at lightweight, Ricky Burns to win his first world title, and Shawn Porter in a welterweight title defense.

1) IDGAF
2) No one said shlt about GGGeezer's age when fought all of those BUMS. Only when he fought Nelo. And that's a fact. You can cry about it NOW, but it's too late
3) Usyk is on the fence with his eligibility.
4) Beter has but 1 good W

"Biv whooped Nelo's ass !"
Let's see -

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

5) Bud has but 1 good W

Next

[BodyBagz]

Dumb Bob is trying to cash out Beter........

[BodyBagz]

Inoue recent opps -
Whonehy....old AF
Nery....eh. Who is his best W
Tamales....who ?
Featherfisted Fulton...
Butler......is what he really is

Beter's -
Biv....FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Smith.....Nelo did it 1st
Yarde....never won a big fight
Smith.....Biv did it 1st
Browne

Benny's -
Whozyk......UD
Lil DooDoo....And people made fun of Nelo vs Charla !!!
Plant (his best W) UD......Nelo did it 1st and better
LeMeh.....He was shot when BHS son'd him
Whorone David

Bud's -
Some nobody with a strap
Spence....No doubt, a huge W due to how easy it was.
Whonasyan
Porter....The Del Boy of the WW div. Never amounted to anything.
Brook....was a fringe level guy in his prime. Never amounted to anything

Nelo's -
Berlanga
Munguia
Charla ("At least he didn't KMTFO" )"
Ryder
TripleFlop 3. TripleFlop beating some Asian guy named Murata was considered thrilling !!!! A fight that happened the same year as the Nelo 3 fight !

But yeah
Nelo should not be p4p king

(HW's should not be eligible)

[hugh grant]

Bivol should be above beterbiev, whose a heavyweight nearly. Nel o might not be in best form now, so is dropping down

[j0zef]

Good list. My only gripes would be having Tank there, since he barely fought anyone of note, Haney since he got annihilated by Ryan, and Canelo being so high after the crap fights he's taken recently.

[BodyBagz]

Good list. My only gripes would be having Tank there, since he barely fought anyone of note, Haney since he got annihilated by Ryan, and Canelo being so high after the crap fights he's taken recently.

How would you rate Inoues, Buds and Benny's recent opps ?
Prior to Biv, did Beter take on tough guys ?

[j0zef]

How would you rate Inoues, Buds and Benny's recent opps ?
Prior to Biv, did Beter take on tough guys ?

I'm legit scratching my head what you're getting at .. uhm.. yeah, all 3 of them fought way better opposition than Canelo.

Inoue moved up and KOd Fulton, followed by KOing Nery. Both easily Top3 in the division.
Crawford KOd Spence, a top10 P4P fighter, then moved up and beat one of the top guys at 154 in Madrimov.
Benavidez KOd Andrade, a top fighter in the division, followed up by moving up and beating Gvozdyk, former LHW King who lost it to Beterbiev.

Canelo's last 5 are terrible. He finally took a 3rd fighter against Golovkin who was 40, followed by John Ryder who was barely top10 (maybe?) and is now retired, then he dragged a 154 pounder up two divisions, took a fight against Munguia.. who.. urgh, Munguia is terrible and was made for Canelo, but fine, he was a "good" opponent on paper. Lastly, he beat Berlanga who barely started fighting 12 rounders.

[BodyBagz]

I'm legit scratching my head what you're getting at .. uhm.. yeah, all 3 of them fought way better opposition than Canelo.

Good to know