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People get mad that the WBC and WBA make up fake titles and refuse to order mandatories
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IBF needs to stay how they are, but have better mandatories and ranking choices similar to the others.
WBC and others need to keep their mandatory choices but have more strict rules enforcing them and only have one belt.
What boxing needs is a mix of the good parts, but knowing boxing there is a better chance of getting an alphabet soup that has crap ranking on par with IBF that has as many belts as WBC.
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It's good that the IBF enforces its mandatories but they should allow for immediate rematches for undisputed. Being too quick to strip fighters is not good for boxing either.
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The IBF have really improved their prestige as a World Championship title this year 'I am not sure why certain people in the boxing community, want specific fighters to be treated with exception and given the ability to avoid obligations as a Champion'.
It is very straight forward and simple, when a fighter becomes a Champion 'They are now obligated to adhere to the requirement's as a Champion. Those are to take on all comers, and defend their titles against mandatory contenders. If a fighter does not want to, or struggles to fight under those conditions. Then in my opinion, they have proven themselves not to be worthy of holding the specific titles'.
The individual Organisations, have to think about their prestige moving forward in the sport 'Fighters have the ability in my opinion to build titles up, but they also have the ability to discredit and decrease the values of World titles over time'.
This can be seen with all the fighters, who made the WBO belt increase its prestige over the decades. Joe Calzaghe, Chris Eubank Senior, Steve Collins, Wladimir Kiltschko, those are all fighters who through their actions as Champions. Improve the universal image and perception of the WBO titles. Wladimir Kiltschko also achieved this with the IBO title'.
Fighters are only able to do this, when they adhere to the requirement's as Champions and take on all comers and defend their titles against mandatory challenges. Go and check the statistics of those fighters as Champions.
'Joe Calzaghe fought and beaten 10 World Champions. Chris Eubank Junior, Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall, Charles Brewer, Bryon Mitchell, Jeff Lacy, Sakio Bika, Mikkel Kessler, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Junior'.
In the professional ranks, Wladimir Kiltschko achieved 24 successful defenses of his World titles, has won 26 Championship level fights 'And has fought in a total of 30 Championship level fights'.
Chris Eubank Senior achieved 18 successful defenses of his World titles, has won '19 Championship level fights 'And has fought in a total of 24 Championship level fights'.
Because those fighters adhered to the requirement's as Champions, this built up the individual boxing organisations in terms of prestige universally 'Because it is the fighters, who make the titles. But as I have already stated early in my posts, they can also decrease the prestige of World titles if they do not adhere to their obligation's as Champion's'.
Note: Oleksandr Uysk made the conscious decision to vacate his belts 'Uysk's behaviour is not so different to Rid**** Bowe's during the 90's. Rid**** Bowe vacated his WBC World Heavyweight Championship belt in order to avoid fighting Lennox Lewis'.
Tyson Fury's behaviours and antics did have a disruptive and negative effect upon Oleksandr Uysk's IBF title reign 'But Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I, that fight took place on May 18th 2024. Their rematch is scheduled for December 21st 2024'.
There is a 6 month period between May 18th and December 21st 2024 'If Oleksandr Uysk really wanted to? He could of done more in my opinion, to hold onto his IBF World Heavyweight titles. There was nothing stopping Oleksandr Uysk from defending his titles against his mandatory challenger'.
Oleksandr Uysk himself made the conscious decision to vacate his IBF World Heavyweight titles, Uysk was not stripped of his titles. This is a historical boxing fact, which many people in the boxing community refuse to acknowledge.
I have once compared the Heavyweight World titles to Thor's Hammer 'Only those fighters who are worthy enough, can hold aloft the titles and wield its power as Champions'.
Oleksandr Uysk lifted the Heavyweight Hammer, and for a moment in time 'Oleksandr Uysk held all of the titles as the Undisputed heavyweight Champion, but then he lost his grip of the titles? And began to try and circumnavigated the ideals, obligations and requirements that are expected of a Champion'.
There are requirements, and obligations that all Champions must adhere to? One of the most important duties is defending your titles against all comers'.
Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 fights in total. Henry Armstrong had 183 fights, once upon a time? Armstrong fought 27 times in one year.
Muhammad Ali got his jaw broken by Ken Norton in their first fight 'And even after such a injury, the rematch was less than 6 months later'.
The point I am trying to make is? If Oleksandr Uysk wanted to really keep the IBF title 'Then although yes, it would be a challenge for him. But there was nothing stopping him from fighting his mandatory challenger for the IBF title, before his rematch with Tyson Fury'.
Oleksandr Uysk never lost his IBF title inside of the boxing ring, he never lost the titles by defending them as Champion 'Oleksandr Uysk and his team, made the conscious decision to vacate the titles. Because he did not want to fight his mandatory challenger, those are the facts'.
'Uysk is a great fighter, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'.
But even Oleksandr Uysk who I personally regard as the most accomplished active fighter in all of boxing and pound for pound the rated number 1 fighter in the sport on performance 'Even Uysk lost grip of those titles, and became unworthy'.
To conclude: A World Boxing Title, is a physical representation within physical reality of absolute power. And with great power, comes the potential of great prestige if a fighter can adhere to their obligation's and requirement's as Champions win or lose. The individual boxing organisations have to uphold their principle's, they have to maintain their system of worthiness in order to be considered a genuine Global World title Universally. Boxing is a sport, that compared to other combat sports? Boxing in reality is one of the few combat sports in the World, that has genuine World Champions. And this level of prestige has been built up through decades and well over a century of principle's, obligations being adhere to by fighters as Champions. Before the era's of the London Prize Fighting Rules 1838, and 'Marquess Of Queensberry Rules 1867 'Certain Men of a esteem had honour, between ourselves to sort out a dispute or disagreement. Whether it be during a form of competition, or a dispute on the street. There have always been requirement's and obligations, that many of us have adhered to in life'. When fighters do not adhere to the requirement's and obligations as Champions, and when the individual boxing organisations do not maintain their systems of honour and worthiness. This is when the sport truly is brought into disrepute, and that is why it is important that Individual boxing organisation's maintain their systems of prestige.
The IBF World Boxing organisation in my opinion, through maintaining it's own principle's has brought justice to itself as a World title 'Also the sport in terms of Universal and Historical prestige' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-19-2024, 02:55 PM.
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