Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol's team express their frustration following Artur Beterbiev fight

[Jsmooth9876]

I am glad you made that post. Every time I read someone write "but he won the fight because he won the championship rounds" or "he was coming or strong and the other guy was running in the last two rounds" I cringe but never post anything. Just because someone won the last two rounds does not mean he won five of the previous ten rounds. Very simple maths but seems to escape so many people. Perhaps that is how they explain the lack of logic in their argument so they can substantiate their own point of view and feel good about their opinion.

How do you feel when people say " you have to take the belt from the champion" as if the champ should get extra credit in the fight just because they walked in the ring with a belt around his waist. I thought AB locked up a draw because he "won the championship rounds" but of course I gave him a few rounds before we got to said championship rounds as well lol

[Jsmooth9876]

I don’t think any would have been upset with a draw, but to give Beterbiev the fight totally is outta the question, his own dammm corner was scared as hell too! I give him the last 2 and maybe 3 earlier rounds but that’s it, I can’t make a case he won especially the way in which the judges except the one who scored it even. This another example of poor judgment

the 8-4 card was a joke that's for sure

[robbyheartbaby]

This is getting ridiculous Bivol clearly lost. 7-5 or 8-4 the result is same a crooked promoter can’t get his way and is throwing his toys out of the box move the f*** on.

[robbyheartbaby]

the 8-4 card was a joke that's for sure

hardly a joke watch the fight again

[wileyhemi]

I scored it a draw, but Bivol appeared to be running backwards at times. That had to figure into the judges scoring.

Exactly. In case of doubt you don't favour the guy who runs like a deer all night and loses the last three rounds on all the cards

[SouthpawRight]

How do you feel when people say " you have to take the belt from the champion" as if the champ should get extra credit in the fight just because they walked in the ring with a belt around his waist. I thought AB locked up a draw because he "won the championship rounds" but of course I gave him a few rounds before we got to said championship rounds as well lol

I’d revise the guideline to

“You must take the decision from popular opponents”

in the final rounds

Artur went for it

Biv didn’t. his corner instructions or amateur boxing mindset costed him the decision

[Southermost]

Too much image.pngcrying for my taste Bivol's fans could not let it go please turn the page Bivol was lucky to get out of the ring vertically.

[boxingitis]

Running doesn't win FIGHTS.

[Josef Devu]

Bivol arms must be very sore from all those punches he blocked all night, even Frank Warren had it for Bivol by a couple rounds,, but I guess for casual fans the winner is the one that throws more punches, not the one that lands more not to mention cleaner shots,,compubox give Bivol 6 rounds and 5 to Beterbiev and one draw, the point is you can’t expect a decision in your favor against a ****** in a ****** country plain and simple

[observer]

Every time someone makes the comment and even worse yet a boxing writer writes it, I want to smack the person in the head and say “hey dummy! There is no “swaying” in boxing!!” Rounds are scored round by round; each individually under its own merits. A judge shouldn’t be “swayed” in “later rounds” that would change the outcome of a fight! If a fighter, fighting a 12 round fight takes the first 7 then the other fighter comes on that’s a 7-5 fight! Even if he is brutally pummeled (short of a 10-8) it’s still 7-5! There isn’t “sway” to go back and change a couple 10-9s in earlier rounds that changes the outcome. I loathe the term “sway” in boxing.

Exactly, they make it sound like judges watch the last three rounds, say to themselves 'I must've been scoring the fight wrong', take the pen out and start correcting their scores for rounds 1-9.

Having said that, I remember when I was just starting to follow boxing some 25 years ago, I was watching a fight. Both boxers were relatively unknown. One was pressing the fight and marching forward, the other was easily dodging the punches and shifting out of trouble. Neither was landing anyting of substance. I was sure the slick fighter had it in the bag. I was surprised when the score was a washout for the agressive fighter. These things do happen - neither fighter outlanded the other one. Beterbiev was more agressive, controlled the ring and threw more. Personally I thought Bivol should have edged it (and I made some money betting on Beterbiev, so I was as impartial as I could be, LOL), but I wouldn't cry robbery.

To me, the big question is who can do better in a rematch? Logic suggests Beterbiev as he now does not need extra time to figure Bivol out and can start where he left off. However, this was a relatively high energy fight, and Beterbiev is not getting any younger. I was surprised Beterbiev was slight underdog. Bivol willl probably be the underdog in the rematch, but I think it's still a 50/50 fight.

I rarely enjoy even fights (I like it when one fighter dominates the other, seel Calzaghe-Lacy), but this was an exception.