FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR: Promoted by Golden Boy?

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It starts with Arum owing Floyd a bunch of money form the Gatti fight, there is pending litigation going on the issue I beleive still (I have not heard differently anyways), Arum acknowledges that he owes Floyd a lot of money but is counter sueing over some issue.

Also Arum likes to talk **** about Floyd because Floyd got over on Arum big time, Arum prides himself on being the smartest man in the room so teh fact that somebody that no one respects as smart got the best of him really sticks in his craw.

If someone owed you money (even if it is just a belief) and talked **** about you constantly would you want to do business with that guy?

To add to this, it really starts with Arum not turning Mayweather into a mainstream star and basically trying to control Mayweather's career and relegate him to a good, but underappreciated fighter.

Arum likes to have total control and isn't really big on hitting mainstream with non-niche fighters. This is why Arum has so many Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, ***s, etc. He's good at marketing the niche, but he likes to have total control.

Golden Boy, on the other hand, markets to the mainstream with any fighter regardless of race, but likes to give the fighters more control over their own career and promotional rights. Most promoters and writers HATE this model. Bob Arum and Larry Merchant probably hate it the most...and go figure they're both in the late 70s.

[JoeKickAss]

Yes he is. Anybody who believes that Mayweather Promotions crap is an idiot.

It's like all the music artists that talk about their so called label, when in reality a bigger one like Capitol, Universal, Interscope, etc... owns their ****.

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He likes to talk about his own company mayweather promotions who aint even got a Office block!

lol....blind hate

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Yes he is. Anybody who believes that Mayweather Promotions crap is an idiot.

It's like all the music artists that talk about their so called label, when in reality a bigger one like Capitol, Universal, Interscope, etc... owns their ****.

Well, music a little different because there actually are a lot of genuinely independent label that doing fairly well, especially with digital distribution becoming more and more popular. But either with boxing or with music owning a subsidiary company, which is basically what Mayweather Promotions is, does come with added benefits.

Team Mayweather definitely has more control of business decisions than they had under Top Rank and they definitely make much more money this way than they did under Top Rank. I don't even think Bob Arum would dispute that. Bob Arum would probably say they're idiots who don't know what they're doing, but I don't think he'd disagree that they have more control and get a bigger percentage of the pie.

[IIocano]

Mayweather works together with GBP. Mayweather and GBP are using eachother to help promote fights together. One of the reasons why they became successful with Marquez vs Mayweather fight.

PBF needs GBP vice versa.

PBF is not his own boss because he is doing business with GBP.

GBP need PBF after their main stars and prospects were defeated. Big blow for GBP!!!

[MJ406]

Co-Promoted .... Contract with

Okay so Golden Boy helps promote Mayweather's fights and has done so vs JMM and Ricky Hatton. But Floyd does not have a Golden Boy contract.

**I though Mosley and Hopkins on the other hand had contracts and pretty high ranking within the Golden Boy company

Danny Jacobs

and Dazed is right (per usual)

GBP is basically his promoter but he is allowed to promote his fights under the Mayweather Promotions banner (even though there is no official promoters license in Nevada for this "Company")

GBP invested a lot of money into Mayweather from what I have heard and their year hinged on how well Sept 19th did so they were all relieved when it did better than expected numbers

the big is what I never got. Golden Boy is one of the biggest promoters in boxing and does a lot of events

and I've read about Mayweather Promotions not being licensed (Rafael said the same)

so if that's true ^

1. Why does Floyd flash the Mayweather promotions banner if they aren't even licensed.

and more importantly .. on a human interest scale

2. How come nobody's called Floyd on this? as I've heard in past interviews Mayweather heavily criticize both Cotto & Pacquiao for not being their "own boss" since both are under Bob Arum's Top Rank

since Golden Boy does the bulk of Floyd's fight promoting and Mayweather Promotions is kinda just there .. unlicensed and all

how is what Floyd says all that valid?

BUMP

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Okay so Golden Boy helps promote Mayweather's fights and has done so vs JMM and Ricky Hatton. But Floyd does not have a Golden Boy contract.

**I though Mosley and Hopkins on the other hand had contracts and pretty high ranking within the Golden Boy company



the big is what I never got. Golden Boy is one of the biggest promoters in boxing and does a lot of events

and I've read about Mayweather Promotions not being licensed (Rafael said the same)

so if that's true ^

1. Why does Floyd flash the Mayweather promotions banner if they aren't even licensed.

and more importantly .. on a human interest scale

2. How come nobody's called Floyd on this? as I've heard in past interviews Mayweather heavily criticize both Cotto & Pacquiao for not being their "own boss" since both are under Bob Arum's Top Rank

since Golden Boy does the bulk of Floyd's fight promoting and Mayweather Promotions is kinda just there .. unlicensed and all

how is what Floyd says all that valid?

BUMP

Well, Floyd is much more of his own boss than Cotto and Pacquiao are. Anyone who fights at Golden Boy has more control than any fighter who fights at Top Rank. Fighters who fight w/ Golden Boy with their own subsidiary promotional company REALLY have more control over their career than just about any other boxer in the sport who aren't under a similar arrangement.

Look at it like this, if you fight for Top Rank Arum owns your rights. If you're a Miguel Cotto you can't force Arum to negotiate with Team Mayweather. If you're Mayweather you can always leave the agreement with Golden Boy if they're not delivering what you want. If you're Manny Pacquiao, you can't leave Top Rank if they're not delivering what you want.

It's not like Richard Schaefer has an enforceable contract over Mayweather (and a lot of other fighters for that matter). He just gets to negotiate on Mayweather's behalf because he's better at it than Mayweather. Arum negotiates on his fighter's behalf because he's better at it than they are, but also because they're contractually obligated to allow him to do so. He also get a bigger percentage of the money from their fights than Schaefer gets from Golden Boy affiliated fighters.