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  • Lefty0616
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    #51
    Originally posted by BodyBagz

    You've just defined a whole bunch of fighters !!!!!!!!!!!
    ...And Canelo fought them all. He won't fight Crawford (a power puncher elite) and he won't fight Benavidez (a knockout artist with volume power punches).

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      #52
      Originally posted by LAchargers373

      We don’t gotta bet money just a gentlemens bet. I agree beterbiev wasn’t rocked by smith I misposke I just kind of meant that if joe hits u it’ll hurt he’s always been one of the most powerful punchers in the division. Also bivol never been down beterbiev has been rocked and hurt and dropped by a few fighters none of them as close to as good as dmitri. It’s just a bad match up for beterbiev he’s gonna be a step behind all night I’m calling it rn. I been wrong before tho. Should be a great scrap
      Joe has some power, but that's not the issue. Beterbiev was down because of his style of fighting. He comes forward and puts a lot of pressure (we saw It again tonight), so he's gonna get caught. Usually he'll take a few seconds to recover, moving around, but with a good puncher, there's always the possibility of being dropped. This said, people always talk about Bivols footwork, how good it is. But they neglect the fact that Beterbiev has a different footwork BECAUSE of his style. he really cut off the ring effectively, and without wasting too much energy.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #53
        Originally posted by Lefty0616

        ...And Canelo fought them all. He won't fight Crawford (a power puncher elite) and he won't fight Benavidez (a knockout artist with volume power punches).
        A
        Bud went the distance with some unknown sap
        B
        Benny went the distance with Plant
        C
        Try again

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          #54
          Originally posted by BodyBagz

          A
          Bud went the distance with some unknown sap
          B
          Benny went the distance with Plant
          C
          Try again
          Canelo won't fight them. You brought up one fight per boxer. Bring up their histories and knockout streaks. You speak of Crawford fighting an unknown. Madrimov is a good fighter. Roy Jones Jr was a relatively unknown when he fought James Toney. He went on to win, "Boxer of the Decade". And Benavidez fought a guy who was very good at holding and running to survive. When you look at their knockout ratios, anyone will realize that you have no argument. You may wanna try again.

          Canelo won't fight them.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Lefty0616

            Canelo won't fight them.

            You brought up one fight per boxer. Bring up their histories and knockout streaks.

            You speak of Crawford fighting an unknown. Madrimov is a good fighter. Roy Jones Jr was a relatively unknown when he fought James Toney. He went on to win, "Boxer of the Decade".

            And Benavidez fought a guy who was very good at holding and running to survive. When you look at their knockout ratios, anyone will realize that you have no argument. You may wanna try again.

            Canelo won't fight them.
            1) Prove it
            2) Everyone has KO streaks. It's called the "padding of the resume" stage.
            3) That nobody Bud beat will never reach this status again.
            4) We waited and RJJ proved to be the goods.
            5) Refer to #2 regarding KO ratios. Try breaking that ratio down to segments. When, AND WHY, did the KO ratio PLUMMET !!!!
            6) Don't let hate dictate how you watch a fight and judge a fighter. OR be as critical of unproven boogeymen as you are of guys like Nelo. Who actually went out and proved himself.

            NEXT

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            • BodyBagz
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              #56
              Plant "holding on for dear life"


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              • Lefty0616
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                #57
                Originally posted by BodyBagz

                1) Prove it
                2) Everyone has KO streaks. It's called the "padding of the resume" stage.
                3) That nobody Bud beat will never reach this status again.
                4) We waited and RJJ proved to be the goods.
                5) Refer to #2 regarding KO ratios. Try breaking that ratio down to segments. When, AND WHY, did the KO ratio PLUMMET !!!!
                6) Don't let hate dictate how you watch a fight and judge a fighter. OR be as critical of unproven boogeymen as you are of guys like Nelo. Who actually went out and proved himself.

                NEXT
                I'm a fan of Canelo, but I call it as I see it

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Lefty0616

                  I'm a fan of Canelo, but I call it as I see it
                  What do you see ?
                  And do you see everyone as critically ?

                  The last question is more important of the 2

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz

                    Bruh..........Now you're tapping into his feelings ?!?!?
                    Seeking out challenges is a display of egotistical behavior ?!?!?!?
                    If so, what's wrong with that ?!?!?!
                    Every fighter, and I do mean every fighter, thinks they are better than their opponent and will win.
                    Not quite egotistical enough for you ?
                    I suppose you have a point. There are some who are pushing for a Canelo/Beterbiev fight before the Bivol/Beterbiev rematch and 'd like to see that as well. It would be a much more exciting fight than the rematch. I'm just not sure Canelo can end up on his feet against Beterbiev, but he might well be able to win on points. If Canelo looks at this as a welcome challenge then good for him.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OldTerry

                      I suppose you have a point. There are some who are pushing for a Canelo/Beterbiev fight before the Bivol/Beterbiev rematch and 'd like to see that as well. It would be a much more exciting fight than the rematch. I'm just not sure Canelo can end up on his feet against Beterbiev, but he might well be able to win on points. If Canelo looks at this as a welcome challenge then good for him.
                      An ego driven (confident) athlete is usually a successful one (or was at some point).
                      How can anyone achieve something if they have no confidence in their ability ?

                      Regarding Nelo vs Biv 2 vs Beter vs Biv 2 vs Nelo vs Benny.....
                      Now that Biv has lost and his Beter rematch seems imminent, Nelo might as well get Benny out of the way.
                      I hope the next face is subjected to as much scrutiny as the present one.

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