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  • hugh grant
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    #71
    Originally posted by Donnie Herrera

    Not really cuz he never fought anyone…absolutely nobody…and was afraid to cross the pond until Roy & BHOP were past prime with losses…
    floyd wouldn't ever fight pac in phili pines, maidana in Buenos aires, Nelo in mexico, at any time, under any circumstances. Floyd understands even if he wins 12 rounds he can still get robbed when in.opponents backyard, calzaghe understood that too
    Last edited by hugh grant; 10-09-2025, 04:25 PM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      floyd wouldn't ever fight pac in phili pines, maidana in Buenos aires, Nelo in mexico, at any time, under any circumstances. Floyd understands even if he wins 12 rounds he can still get robbed
      UK and that part of the world have the most screwed decisions and early stoppages…calslappy crossed the pond only because those guys were old past prime fighters…he kept his ass home when they were prime…all the hype jobs get found out in America…or when they step up…

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        #73
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        floyd wouldn't ever fight pac in phili pines, maidana in Buenos aires, Nelo in mexico, at any time, under any circumstances. Floyd understands even if he wins 12 rounds he can still get robbed when in.opponents backyard, calzaghe understood that too
        floyd went to japan to fight a small japanese boy with no boxing experience and who weighs 118 pounds so you are flat out wrong sir

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          #74
          No one really ever mentions him
          I think he's rated properly.

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            #75
            Originally posted by daggum

            floyd went to japan to fight a small japanese boy with no boxing experience
            "Floyd Mayweather defeated Tenshin Nasukawa by first-round technical knockout (TKO) in a three-round exhibition boxing match on December 31, 2018. Despite being a much smaller kickboxer, Mayweather was dominant, dropping Nasukawa three times with precise punches before Nasukawa's corner stopped the fight. The exhibition was for entertainment, with no judges and not counting towards professional records, but Mayweather's speed and power were enough to overwhelm the younger fighter."

            The bold/size points out the subtle difference between a fight and an exhibition match. I know. Details, schmetails

            May also "fought" this guy......



            How do you explain this ?!?

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              #76
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              floyd wouldn't ever fight pac in phili pines
              Team Pac, as well as all promoters, knew fighting in USA is where the money was.
              You could fight in front of a billion people and only generate $500,000 USD.

              No one becomes the King only to behave like a commoner.
              You want what I got, come take !
              When you become the King, you can travel the world.

              The way it ought to be.

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                #77
                Originally posted by daggum

                floyd went to japan to fight a small japanese boy with no boxing experience and who weighs 118 pounds so you are flat out wrong sir
                Yes, I think floyd was a bit guilty his stans said he's greater than pac with a hometown gift h2h win over pac, so this is Floyd's way of addressing it, but Floyd's execution is a bit off, as his interpretation was faulty and misguided
                Last edited by hugh grant; 10-10-2025, 12:29 PM.

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                  #78
                  I don't think Joe Calzaghe is ether overrated or underrated 'they say that when certain fighters retire? Over time their feats achieved and resume, will increase with prestige. This has been the case with fighters such as Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, and Floyd Mayweather Junior. Year upon year, those three fighter's resumes get stronger and stronger'.

                  Joe Calzaghe at the time of his retirement, was underrated in my opinion 'he was long reigning world champion, and overcame all of the obstacles put in front of him first time of asking. And the facts are? He beat many former world champions during his reign, or fighters who went on to win World titles'.

                  Note: I have always stated that his resume was underrated. Joe Calzaghe at Middle and Super Middle Weight has better wins skill for skill arguable than Canelo Alvarez in those weight Divisions. A part from Gennady Golovkin, none of the fighters who Alvarez has beaten during his Middle to Super Middle Weight titles reigns are better than Calzaghe's wins over Chris Eubank Senior or Mikkel Kessler'.

                  Then you have fighters on Joe Calzaghe's resume such as Robin Reid, Jeff Lacy, Charles Brewer, Bryon Mitchell, Sakio Bika and Richie Woodhall 'All former World Champions who Joe Calzaghe beat during his Super Middle Weight reigns'.

                  In 2025, I think the appreciation of Joe Calzaghe as a fighter has peaked 'or reached a peak. More people within boxing acknowledge that he was a great fighter, and for sure? Was competing during a era in the Middle to Super Middle Weight Divisions that were by far stronger than now'.

                  I don't think a fighter like Terrence Crawford in the latter stages of his career 'would be able to just suddenly decide, to move up into the 168 pound divisions back in the 2000's and beat Joe Calzaghe. Terrence Crawford is a great fighter but? In my opinion he would not be able to beat Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch or even the version of Chris Eubank Senior in the very latter stages of his career that Calzaghe beat'.

                  To conclude: So overall I would say, Joe Calzaghe is rated just about right at this moment in time 'he was a long reigning champion, who defended his title many times. Joe Calzaghe when he beat Mikkel Kessler became technically the Undisputed Super Middle Weight Champion. Joe Calzaghe won all the major titles in the 168 pound divisions during his career, the Lineal Ring Magazine, WBA, WBO, WBC, and IBF titles' etc.



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                  • Donnie Herrera
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    Yes, I think floyd was a bit guilty his stans said he's greater than pac with a hometown gift h2h win over pac, so this is Floyd's way of addressing it, but Floyd's execution is a bit off.
                    Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep better at night…

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Donnie Herrera

                      Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep better at night…
                      Yes, floyd knew criticisms of his home advantage, and not giving biggest rivals chance to even score s in their own backyard is valid. So fighting in Japan is floyd s way of trying to be a legit WORLD champ.. It's Floyd's apology and confession to his critic's

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