Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Artur Beterbiev-Dmitry Bivol concludes stretch of undisputed championship fights

[turnedup]

I don't think Bivol can stop Beterbiev. He could not stop many other opponents not half as good as Beterbiev, who by the way can take a good shot.

Only two possible scenarios - Bivol by decision or Beterbiev by stoppage. The other options are not very likely.

He most definitely can. There are two versions of Bivol, the one who enjoys dismantling you round by round and then the mean Bivol. The mean bivol shows his face when his opponents press too hard, just becuase his default isn’t the mean one doesn’t mean it’s not there. He’s a smart af fighter and keeps his emotions mostly in check. If he smells blood in the water he will go for the knockout because the power across him needs just one shot to change a fight.

[Oregonian]

Before 2020, there had been only four male undisputed champions in boxing's four-belt era. Since 2020, there have been 10* more. And in one week, barring a draw, that number will increase to 11* since 2020 and 15* overall. (Details on those asterisks will come further below.)
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Context matters in everything. Even this writer gave context to Teofimo and Kamboso becoming undisputed. So, to give it context for those that believe being undisputed means greatness, let’s just look at those aforementioned guys.

Kamboso and Teo have achieved something guys like Oscar, Floyd, SRL, PAC etc never achieved, does that elevate them to ATG status?

We live in a time where every “record” is highlighted to signify greatness. The first this or that … in the end it’s all fluff.

That said, Bivol is going to beat Beterbiev to become the next undisputed. He is young enough to defend perhaps 10 times which will content his greatness.

[JeBron Lamez]

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Context matters in everything. Even this writer gave context to Teofimo and Kamboso becoming undisputed.

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

The writer's "logic" doesn't matter either, Teo & Kambo should have been undisputed but never were so charge it to the greedy, over-administrated game.

[gluvsup]

IMO 60-40 for nuclear Artur. Some big risks (age, cuts, knee). But the athleticism and IQ of Bivol aren't necessarily constants the whole fight long. The more he's hit, the more this great matchup becomes the familiar mushroom cloud.

[BrankoB]

He most definitely can. There are two versions of Bivol, the one who enjoys dismantling you round by round and then the mean Bivol. The mean bivol shows his face when his opponents press too hard, just becuase his default isn’t the mean one doesn’t mean it’s not there. He’s a smart af fighter and keeps his emotions mostly in check. If he smells blood in the water he will go for the knockout because the power across him needs just one shot to change a fight.

Way too risky to go after Beterbiev and open himself up for a counter. Bivol will stay disciplined for 12 rounds and will not go for the kill under any circumstances.

[cace]

yeah i agree with most of you all
either bivol decision or beter by ko

cant see anyway that bivol gets the ko but can perhaps see beter by decision
i dunno just cant wait for the fight

[Left Hook Louie]

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

Does that mean they were undisputed 60% of the time ALL the time?

[zod66]

1 fight draw, 2 fight draw 3 fight draw RIP Saudi money

[Mr. David]

What a joke that you listed Lopez and Kambosos with their ****** WBC Franchise belt. They weren't undisputed. The WBA, WBO, and IBF all recognized Haney as the WBC champion and the Franchise title as a fake ceremonial belt.

Thank you for your comment! Given that there are people on both sides of the debate, each with understandable points, I presented both sides of the argument and included asterisks. I even put the naysayers' rationale first so that it didn't get buried:

"For some, it is reasonable to look at that designation as being akin to a 'champion-in-recess' or a 'champion emeritus,' where a fighter is no longer the primary titleholder."

[Mr. David]

The context in which Teo & Kambosos were never undisputed doesn't mean they were undisputed when they weren't.

The writer's "logic" doesn't matter either, Teo & Kambo should have been undisputed but never were so charge it to the greedy, over-administrated game.

Thank you for your comment! And great username!

Given that there are people on both sides of the debate, each with understandable points, I presented both sides of the argument and included asterisks. I even put the naysayers' rationale first so that it didn't get buried:

"For some, it is reasonable to look at that designation as being akin to a 'champion-in-recess' or a 'champion emeritus,' where a fighter is no longer the primary titleholder."