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  • #21
    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post


    vs



    Both are 6'
    Biv 72'' reach
    Beter 73"
    I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders

    I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185

    Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads

    Originally posted by elfag View Post
    Bivol is going to eat body shots and the overhand right counter over his jab
    Bet overhand gets countered as he'll be unable to set it up with his jab neutered by Biv!

    I see Bet going for the long right hook to the body
    Last edited by SouthpawRight; 10-06-2024, 12:45 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post

      I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders

      I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185

      Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads

      Bet overhand gets countered as he'll be unable to set it up with his jab neutered by Biv!

      I see Bet going for the long right hook to the body


      He doesnt need to set it up., I said he will counter over top bivols jab. not set it up with his jab

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post

        I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders

        I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185

        Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads
        That 1'' is not noticeable.
        Skill will be the deciding factor here

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        • #24
          Beterbiev`s huge head will be eating counters all the time.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by elfag View Post
            Predicting KO/TKO between rounds 8-10.

            Several factors for this.

            - people are over hyping the age disadvantage for Beterbiev. Everyone gets old eventually but Beterbiev just fought in January and hasnt looked old yet. that is just speculation on their part that he will suddenly be old for this fight.

            - people over hype the canelo win for Bivol. sure it was a good win but it is irrelevant to this fight. Beterbiev isnt a middleweight and he would have stopped canelo in under 4.

            - beterbiev isnt just a brute, he is a highly skilled and more decorated amateur fighter than even bivol. hes put guys to sleep with counters

            - beterbiev has stopped multiple guys who never been down in their pro careers

            - very good point i saw made recently that Beterbiev has faced the soviet style his entire life, hes seen bivols style many times and knows what works with it

            - beterbiev has excellent stamina, i never seen him tire before

            - i seen bivol rocked by a tired joe smith who couldnt follow through with it, beterbiev will follow through with it

            - beterbiev knows how to cut the ring off. i never seen a guy be able to run from him all night which is what bivol will have to do.




            I will bump this thread post fight to gloat

            Wow you actually like a boxer for once?

            All these years and I've never seen you not b1tch at fighters over anything.

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            • #26
              Some counter points. In his last signature fights, Beterbiev just walks his prey down but doesn't open up until they're on the ropes. Vs Smith, he threw zero punches on the back foot. Smith walked his own fool butt to the ropes and tried to play rope-a-dope and got clobbered, while Bivol is likely the hardest guy in the sport to walk down. If Beterbiev can't get him on the ropes, it could be a long night.

              Second, Bivol has shown that he will push the aggressive fighters back when they want to rest, even when they're bigger guys, and that he can go 12 at the same high pace for fight after fight. Beterbiev maintains his pace because he takes rests while the opponents put themselves where he wants them. Bivol doesn't let anyone do that. So Beterbiev's got to be able to fight above his preferred pace and at Bivol's pace long enough to finish him. That's why I think it's very possible for him to look old in this fight, even though I think he'd be right back to normal vs just about anyone else.

              My x factors are what effect that clubbing right behind the ear will have on Bivol, and who establishes the jab first. I think Bivol by clear decision effectively, but close on the cards, is the most likely outcome, followed by Beterbiev smashing him in 10 if he can't actually keep off the ropes vs Beterbiev. Could be that Beterbiev's actually got even more skill at walking people down than I saw in his last fights because he didn't NEED that skill in those fights. Either way, one of them is going to have a long day at the office on October 12.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by elfag View Post



                He doesnt need to set it up., I said he will counter over top bivols jab. not set it up with his jab
                He won’t be able to get into range for counters if he’s dominated in jabbing

                Biv would be the faster guy controlling the distance

                in this scenario Bet looks like a mummy

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BKM- View Post


                  Wow you actually like a boxer for once?

                  All these years and I've never seen you not b1tch at fighters over anything.

                  I have no idea who you are

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                    Beterbiev`s huge head will be eating counters all the time.


                    I will come back to this comment to gloat on Oct 12

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                      He won’t be able to get into range for counters if he’s dominated in jabbing

                      Biv would be the faster guy controlling the distance

                      in this scenario Bet looks like a mummy

                      I dont think it will be enough, Beter is not discouraged by arm punches. 20 men havent been able to keep him at distance. I have seen Bivol rocked by a gassed joe smith who couldnt finish him.

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