Comments Thread For: Oscar De La Hoya slams 'frivolous' Haney lawsuit, says Devin is a 'shot' fighter

[archiemoore1]

Wilder ducked aj thinking fury was done after he was out for like 3 years
Spence and all the pbc welterweights ducked bud since when bud moved up to fight horn
Haney isn’t that good he bound to lose again
he isn’t Floyd or ward or even bud

Nothing you said is completely false, but on the 1st two points, PBC controls their fighters careers & tells them who to fight and who to avoid. But Wilder and Spence both were terrific fighters and in their primes would put most men their size to sleep. So they're not what I would call pretenders, just strategically being moved by the powers that be, and they were ok with that situation. Wilder facing Fury turned out to be a big miscalculation, a bad chess move. To Errol's credit, he promised to give Bud a fight and he did. It didn't go his way, but Errol definitely ain't no pretender in that ring. He broke bones of many opponents, ribs, eye sockets, cheekbones, etc. As for Haney, he's stale and not improving but he has lot of potential because he is skilled and does have a great work ethic. He just needs someone who can improve his skills, and clearly, i's not Bill.

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Nothing you said is completely false, but on the 1st two points, PBC controls their fighters careers & tells them who to fight and who to avoid. But Wilder and Spence both were terrific fighters and in their primes would put most men their size to sleep. So they're not what I would call pretenders, just strategically being moved by the powers that be, and they were ok with that situation. Wilder facing Fury turned out to be a big miscalculation, a bad chess move. To Errol's credit, he promised to give Bud a fight and he did. It didn't go his way, but Errol definitely ain't no pretender in that ring. He broke bones of many opponents, ribs, eye sockets, cheekbones, etc. As for Haney, he's stale and not improving but he has lot of potential because he is skilled and does have a great work ethic. He just needs someone who can improve his skills, and clearly, i's not Bill.

Wilder relied to much in his power never bothered to get better
I remember that they had offered him a aj fight but he instead chose to fight fury

Spence whole think was good match making and being a weight bully guys came from like 160 or 154 before moving to welterweight kinda a hype job to me

with Haney I agree he is not as good as people said or thought and his dad never boxed
his dad is pretty annoying and not doing Haney any favors

[archiemoore1]

Wilder relied to much in his power never bothered to get better
I remember that they had offered him a aj fight but he instead chose to fight fury

Spence whole think was good match making and being a weight bully guys came from like 160 or 154 before moving to welterweight kinda a hype job to me

with Haney I agree he is not as good as people said or thought and his dad never boxed
his dad is pretty annoying and not doing Haney any favors

When you're down with PBC, your career decisions are guided by someone other than yourself. Fury turned out to be tougher than AJ probably would've been. You see what just happened to AJ, and this was supposedly the new and improved version of AJ. I feel like since he shot a bunch of loads in Amir Khan's wife, his legs never been the same.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Why would the bolded be important to Haney's case though? Not trying to argue, but just not understanding why all that would be important.

It may make his team back off the lawsuit. Like a game of chicken, chicken as in, oh do this, we’ll make you the laughingstock hypocrite in all of boxing. In addition, the lawsuit contends an unfair advantage that has taken away from future earnings by damaging his brand by cheating. If they reveal what I’ve said during discovery, the case will be tossed because he’s therefore done the very thing to others he’s accusing Ryan of. At least that’s my belief. Could be wrong