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  • #41
    Originally posted by Smash View Post
    After saying

    “Winning by knockout is always wonderful, right?” the 33 year old said. “So I think I’m going to win by knockout before the eighth round.

    “I don’t care if Munguia is younger; older. I don’t care, because Canelo in the end is different"

    before the fight
    If I am not lying myself I think Canelo predicted KO8 vs Berlanga too. I think he really belived it when he says it ,something typical for a person full of himself. Most interesting is the round he predicts is usually when he gasses ,atleast last few fights. Since he got that Veganelo something went off.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by Smash View Post

      How about this

      “I could have finished the fight but I took my time,” said the 33 year old. “That’s why there’s 12 rounds to see who’s the best. I took my time and I don’t want to make mistakes, so I did what I was supposed to do to win. Munguia’s a strong fighter; you need to be careful with that. I just take my time"

      This is a widely quoted quote from him and part of a bigger interview

      https://www.boxingscene.com/patient-...unguia--183319
      Perfect thanks It is clear that Canelo is more risk averse these days.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Verus View Post

        Thanks for responding. I will keep looking. This is another one of these "he said" quotes. I am looking for the video where Canelo himself said it.
        If you read that article carefully, you'll notice that the only words quoted are "enjoyed the fight", not the line that reads didn't want to embarrass him. That is an indicator that Ginger didn't say "he didn't want to embarrass his rival".

        I too searched for interviews or articles where Ginger admitted to such, but have yet to find anything.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

          Canleo just doesn't have the power at the weight. Look at the punch stats. Canelo lands a huge amount of power punches in his fights, yet doesn't do much damage. He looked small next to Berlanga in his last fight. big reach disadvantage too

          It doesn't just mean he stops less people - it also means his opponents can attack him more and take more risks to land punches on him
          I agree with the bolded..
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          • #45
            I think Munguia vs Berlanga would be an awesome fight. Both can get hit and hit. They might be at similar levels too.ll

            That said, I was one of those that felt Canelo carried Munguia also. He dropped him nice and almost immediately let off the gas. Perhaps the same can be said for how he fought Berlanga, but Berlanga might of been a tad more patient to land counter punches which disrupted Canelo more than Munguia.

            I also thought Canelo would carry Berlanga if he chose, but it didn't look as obvious. Berlanga's patience helped him stay in the fight the full 12. If he fought a tad more reckless, I think Canelo could have stopped him.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

              If you read that article carefully, you'll notice that the only words quoted are "enjoyed the fight", not the line that reads didn't want to embarrass him. That is an indicator that Ginger didn't say "he didn't want to embarrass his rival".

              I too searched for interviews or articles where Ginger admitted to such, but have yet to find anything.
              These guys are clever in deceiving people for clickbait, at least they deceive me all too often. It is going to get worse once they master using artificial intelligence to help them ply their trade. Thanks for clearing this up.

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              • #47
                I felt like Canelo carried Munguia a bit, less so with EB- but I think Berlanga's Cruiserweight frame carried him through 12- in both cases you can see Canelo's conditioning keeping him in a lower gear in the later rounds which factored in.

                He obvs dominated both of these guys and didn't overextend himself late to try to press a stoppage.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Verus View Post

                  These guys are clever in deceiving people for clickbait, at least they deceive me all too often. It is going to get worse once they master using artificial intelligence to help them ply their trade. Thanks for clearing this up.
                  One thing you might find a bit peculiar about the Canelo-Munguia bout is the last minute of the fight. At around 58 seconds left for the fight to end, Canelo hurts Munguia and appears to hold him up instead of going for the kill and says a few words in Munguia's ear. Check that last minute out when you have time, I'd be curious to hear what you might think.
                  Mic_Rob Mic_Rob likes this.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

                    One thing you might find a bit peculiar about the Canelo-Munguia bout is the last minute of the fight. At around 58 seconds left for the fight to end, Canelo hurts Munguia and appears to hold him up instead of going for the kill and says a few words in Munguia's ear. Check that last minute out when you have time, I'd be curious to hear what you might think.
                    This is the exact moment that I remember more than anything else from the fight tbh.

                    Canelo lands a bomb and then ties Munguia up.
                    Fellow Mexican with a lot of career left- can't say for certain- but I think it was an intentional mercy.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Mic_Rob View Post
                      I felt like Canelo carried Munguia a bit, less so with EB- but I think Berlanga's Cruiserweight frame carried him through 12- in both cases you can see Canelo's conditioning keeping him in a lower gear in the later rounds which factored in.

                      He obvs dominated both of these guys and didn't overextend himself late to try to press a stoppage.
                      Some folks might call Munguia and Berlanga bums, but these guys are younger, bigger strong guys with fresher legs that didn't roll over for Ginger. by the looks of Canelo's marked up face, it's apparent that Berlanga has pop in his punches.

                      On paper it appeared as though Canelo could have easily knocked Berlanga out, but once they were in the ring together, one could see how much bigger Berlanga was and even though Berlanga tasted the canvass, he quickly got up and didn't appear to be hurt.

                      Ginger's age is becoming more apparent, he was breathing heavy early in the fight and his feet are slowing down. His overhand right is becoming more telegraphic, I think Ginger will have a better chance of beating Benavidez if he fights him by May of next year. He might not be a able to handle his quick combos if waits any longer than May.

                      Just my opinion from Ginger's last 2 fights against bigger younger men, which is what Benavidez is.

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