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  • #21
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    Whether he can improve his endurance,

    Ffs, we've literally been talking about this for over a decade. He's 34 now. If it hasn't happened already, it's not going to happen. So ****ing sick of hearing this.

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    • #22
      Bivol is not a big LHW. He has stated he could get down to 168 and was willing to fight Canelo at SMW and snatch his belts from him there.

      And for the record, I think Canelo has accomplished some impressive achievements in the ring. However we also have to acknowledge the fact that he has every single advantage in his favor before he steps into the ring. The sanctioning bodies, promoters, refs and judges kowtow to his demands.

      Canelo can say he wants the Bivol rematch but I highly doubt he wants to get outclassed like that again.
      Last edited by PBR Streetgang; 09-15-2024, 11:03 AM.

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      • #23
        He doesn't really want it, he just has to say he does.

        He does almost nothing better than Bivol in a boxing ring, which is precisely why i said Canelo would lose first time around.

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        • #24
          I just want to know if it's still going to be considered a "cherry pick" when Bivol beats, and possibly humiliates, Beterbiev?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
            Prime GGG loved that safe life
            Reading comprehension. This thread isn’t about GGG. It’s about Bivol and Canelo. Try to keep up read slowly if you need to.

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            • #26
              If Canelo was the slightest bit interested in a Bivol rematch, that would have happened. Canelo knows what we all know, unless some seriously crooked scorecards are involved (not out of the question), he straight up can’t beat Bivol.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                So lets get this right? People complain when Canelo Alvarez is fighting a solid level of opposition such as Munguia and Berlanga 'But when Alvarez wants to challenge himself, and confront a mega challenge like Dimtri Bivol? People still complain'.

                Canelo Alvarez is one of the best fighters of his generation pound for pound, and he is for sure 'The best Super Middle Weight Fighter of his era, and current Undisputed Super Middle Weight Champion'.

                ​​​​​​Alvarez could so easily, continue to take on solid opponent's 'But in fights where most if not all of the time, he is the heavy favourite to win'.

                I have stated before, that beyond being a professional boxer 'Canelo Alvarez is a competitor. I have made this reference, in topics discussing David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez'.

                Note: All David Benavidez needs to do, if he really wants a fight with Canelo Alvarez 'Is to confront him within physical reality, and challenge him'. Once again Benavidez has been nowhere to be seen this fight week, when there was a great opportunity for him to challenge Alvarez before the World's Sporting Media and more'.

                The onus is on David Benavidez as challenger, and not a Champion 'To pursue Canelo Alvarez, and pose him the challenge. But as many people can now see? Like I have been stating for a long time, Benavidez does not want to fight Alvarez, anywhere near to the level his supporters are training to claim'.

                I have always been adamant that Canelo Alvarez, should rematch Dimtri Bivol 'At 175 pounds'. And I have been one of the few individual's, who have given Alvarez a chance of winning the rematch. Skill for skill Bivol is not a superior fighter to Alvarez in all area's of his boxing game, Bivol may have superior movement, long range boxing game. But Canelo Alvarez offensively is a superior fighter, his inside game is better along with his defense while on attack'.

                To conclude: Canelo Alvarez in my opinion, has the attributes 'To push Dimtri Bivol in a rematch at 175 pounds. But the challenge for Alvarez will be? Whether he can improve his endurance, and pressure fighting enough 'To force Bivol into a area of boxing, where he is not the dominant fighter'.

                Dimtri Bivol of course would still be favourite to win the rematch 'But there is a way for Canelo Alvarez to win. And there is a philosophy, that can be used in his preparation for that fight to at least try and improve the area's of his game. Which will support the tactical type of fight, that he will need to execute vs Dimtri Bivol' etc.

                I quit reading when you claimed Mungia and Berlanga were “a solid level of competition”. Which one of Mungias or Berlangas fights puts either in the “solid level of competition”?
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                  I quit reading when you claimed Mungia and Berlanga were “a solid level of competition”. Which one of Mungias or Berlangas fights puts either in the “solid level of competition”?
                  I completely agree with YOU just the facts - I'm not even going to finish reading his BS.

                  Munguia who went life and death with a shopworn (but talented) Derevynchenko?

                  Berlanga who has fought.......... who? Who has literally struggled with absolute no names. Got frustrated and bit an opponent because things weren't going his way.

                  I give Berlanga total respect and credit for showing up and showing heart, guts, and skill a bit better than what we've seen from him before.

                  But let's face it. He's been dropped by dudes ranked between 15-25. Has no credible names on his resume. He has shown NOTHING and never deserved this fight/payday.

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                  • #29
                    There are people in society, who have never ran a Marathon before in their life 'Who will complete a full competitive Marathon next year in 2025. There are people who have also achieved this feat for the first time in their life this year'.

                    And those people are not professional athletes, and many are more advanced in life than Canelo Alvarez 'In order to achieve such a feat, they had to improve their endurance'.

                    So what does that tell you? It tells you that, if Canelo Alvarez, one of the best pound for pound fighters of his generation 'If he focuses all of his efforts, to improve his endurance. Then for sure he can improve, I know for a 1000% fact that he can improve that biomarker of fitness'.

                    Now in order for him to achieve such a training feat, other area's of his game may have to be sacrificed in preparation 'But that would be a tactical risk, he would have to consider and make'.

                    Note: Dimtri Bivol is a good fighter 'Solid fighter'. But seriously? If he was great as people claim 'Then really at 175 pounds, he should of been able to go through the gears and push for the stoppage vs Canelo Alvarez.

                    Dimtro Bivol's win over Canelo Alvarez 'I don't rate it higher than Floyd Mayweather Junior's win. Mayweather Junior was in the latter stages of his career, and outside of his peak 'And he was still able to beat Alvarez more impressively than Bivol'.

                    Bivol is not Superior to Alvarez in all area's of boxing, when is the last time he decked and hurt a top level fighter? Does he ever force stoppages vs any fighter?

                    What are people afraid of? Surely you guys want to see Canelo Alvarez get beaten don't you? Well here is your chance 'The universal perception of Dimtri Bivol is that he is a Super Elite Fighter, who Alvarez has no chance of beating'.

                    That is not my personal perception, but once again 'That is is the Universal perception, of the certain people in the boxing community who only really analyse fighters and match ups on a surface level'.

                    To conclude: Canelo Alvarez has a Superior inside game, and defense on attack than Dimtri Bivol 'And I will even go as far to say? That Canelo Alvarez skill for skill, is a more experienced fighter than Dimtroi Bivol. Although skill for skill Bivol is a great fighter, he is not superior to Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Junior. Alvarez has many times before in his career, in my opinion skill for skill fought better fighters than Bivol pound for pound'.

                    I personally give Canelo Alvarez a serious chance of beating Dimtri Bivol 'In a rematch at 175 pounds'. This is not a fight where, it is difficult to tactically envision a way for Alvarez to win 'If the match up stylistically was that type of challenge, then I would not give Alvarez such a strong chance of winning' etc.

                    AKAcronym just the facts nghtmr111
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-16-2024, 09:21 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                      There are people in society, who have never ran a Marathon before in their life 'Who will complete a full competitive Marathon next year in 2025. There are people who have also achieved this feat for the first time in their life this year'.

                      And those people are not professional athletes, and many are more advanced in life than Canelo Alvarez 'In order to achieve such a feat, they had to improve their endurance'.

                      So what does that tell you? It tells you that, if Canelo Alvarez, one of the best pound for pound fighters of his generation 'If he focuses all of his efforts, to improve his endurance. Then for sure he can improve, I know for a 1000% fact that he can improve that biomarker of fitness'.

                      Now in order for him to achieve such a training feat, other area's of his game may have to be sacrificed in preparation 'But that would be a tactical risk, he would have to consider and make'.

                      Note: Dimtri Bivol is a good fighter 'Solid fighter'. But seriously? If he was great as people claim 'Then really at 175 pounds, he should of been able to go through the gears and push for the stoppage vs Canelo Alvarez.

                      Dimtro Bivol's win over Canelo Alvarez 'I don't rate it higher than Floyd Mayweather Junior's win. Mayweather Junior was in the latter stages of his career, and outside of his peak 'And he was still able to beat Alvarez more impressively than Bivol'.

                      Bivol is not Superior to Alvarez in all area's of boxing, when is the last time he decked and hurt a top level fighter? Does he ever force stoppages vs any fighter?

                      What are people afraid of? Surely you guys want to see Canelo Alvarez get beaten don't you? Well here is your chance 'The universal perception of Dimtri Bivol is that he is a Super Elite Fighter, who Alvarez has no chance of beating'.

                      That is not my personal perception, but once again 'That is is the Universal perception, of the certain people in the boxing community who only really analyse fighters and match ups on a surface level'.

                      To conclude: Canelo Alvarez has a Superior inside game, and defense on attack than Dimtri Bivol 'And I will even go as far to say? That Canelo Alvarez skill for skill, is a more experienced fighter than Dimtroi Bivol. Although skill for skill Bivol is a great fighter, he is not superior to Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Junior. Alvarez has many times before in his career, in my opinion skill for skill fought better fighters than Bivol pound for pound'.

                      I personally give Canelo Alvarez a serious chance of beating Dimtri Bivol 'In a rematch at 175 pounds'. This is not a fight where, it is difficult to tactically envision a way for Alvarez to win 'If the match up stylistically was that type of challenge, then I would not give Alvarez such a strong chance of winning' etc.

                      AKAcronym just the facts nghtmr111
                      He knows it's his weakness, he's been hearing about it for over a decade; if he could have improved it drastically enough, he would've ****ing done it by now. It's not happening at this point in his career, not with that many miles on him already.
                      Last edited by AKAcronym; 09-16-2024, 12:22 PM.

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