Comments Thread For: How good is Naoya Inoue?

[BoxWhere]

Just for clarifications, but the reason Pac is considered a six division champion instead of eight division is not because he fought at catchweight but because he never owned an alphabet org belt in two of them.

Pacquiao has:
112 WBA flyweight belt won against Sasakul (1st division)
122 IBF superbantam belt won against Ledwaba (2nd division)
126 Ring featherweight title won against Barrera, which is NOT considered a world title belt in Japan
130 WBC super feather belt won against Marquez (3rd division)
135 WBC lightweight belt won against Diaz (fourth division)
140 Ring light welter title won against Hatton, again not considered a world title belt
147 WBO welterweight belt won against Cotto (fifth division)
154 vacant WBC superwelter belt against Margarito (sixth division)

Simply a matter of dictionary definition, the Ring isn't considered a boxing world title in Japan. Hence Pacquiao is a world titlist at 112, 122, 130, 135, 147, 154 aka six divisions. Surprisingly he was never a unified champion in any division.

I already know that. What i was trying to say was that his claim of 8 divison champion is BS since it was done through catchweight. It was just worded wrong. And even went back to my earlier comment and fixed it through an edit.

[drablj]

to answer this question we need junto - bam and the winner against naoya next year. junto/bam winner is the best possible realistic opponent for the rest of naoya's career. better ones are only teofimo, crawford, canelo, beterbiev/bivol winner and usyk/fury winner which are totally unrealistic. "how many hall of famers in their prime did he beat?" junto - bam winner is that guy.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Ok. Well if Pac was a "fraud" and only beat bigger guys because of a four pound catchweight, than Inoue is a fraud because he is beating the best in the lighter weight divisions because there isn't any real comp in those divisions.

Neither thing is true, but let's be fair.

You Inoue apologists will attack any fighter compared to your idol. It is kind of creepy.

"Admit Inoue is the best fighter who ever lived or be damned!"

It's pretty funny.

[BoxWhere]

Ok. Well if Pac was a "fraud" and only beat bigger guys because of a four pound catchweight, than Inoue is a fraud because he is beating the best in the lighter weight divisions because there isn't any real comp in those divisions.

Neither thing is true, but let's be fair.

You Inoue apologists will attack any fighter compared to your idol. It is kind of creepy.

"Admit Inoue is the best fighter who ever lived or be damned!"

It's pretty funny.

Everything you said about inoue was all BS. Just admit that you know nothing about inoue.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Everything you said about inoue was all BS. Just admit that you know nothing about inoue.

What that he is a really good fighter, has incredible power in the lower weight classes , and he is HOF for sure? OK.

Guess what. Pac in his prime beats him down. Sorry. Old Donaire busted Inoue up and Donaire in his prime was nowhere near Pac in terms of skill and speed.

But Inoue is damn good in this ultra weak era of comp.

[BoxWhere]

What that he is a really good fighter, has incredible power in the lower weight classes , and he is HOF for sure? OK.

Guess what. Pac in his prime beats him down. Sorry. Old Donaire busted Inoue up and Donaire in his prime was nowhere near Pac in terms of skill and speed.

But Inoue is damn good in this ultra weak era of comp.

Donaire did nothing but survive in that fight and inoue got robbed of ko win. I knew you were a casual and that SHlT you just said confirmed it.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Donaire did nothing but survive in that fight and inoue got robbed of ko win. I knew you were a casual and that SHlT you just said confirmed it.

Oh, I thought Inoue had a broken orbital? Pac would have done ALOT worse. Probably would have been a Hatton like KO.

Nery knocked Inoue on his ass. What would Pac do?

You aren't even a casual dude. You are a fanboy who apparently created an account to defend your favorite fighter against anyone who speaks sense about him. Lol.

You sound all emotional. Are you 14?

Inoue is good. In this really week era. Fulton was considered a top guy, he has no power and in other eras is not good.

[ThunderFists]

What that he is a really good fighter, has incredible power in the lower weight classes , and he is HOF for sure? OK.

Guess what. Pac in his prime beats him down. Sorry. Old Donaire busted Inoue up and Donaire in his prime was nowhere near Pac in terms of skill and speed.

But Inoue is damn good in this ultra weak era of comp.

there is absolutely no doubt inoue is hof, that is undisputable, he is the greatest fighter to ever come out of japan and the 2nd greatest asian fighter ever after pacquiao as of now. 4 weights and 2 times undisputed, did pac ever even unify once in his life? did you see what inoue did to adrian hernandez who was making the 6th defense of his title, in inoue's 6th fight? did you see what inoue did narvez who was 43-1 (losing to a prime donaire by decision) and holds the record of his division with 27 defences, inoue wiped him out in 2 rounds, in only his 8th fight. he beat taguchi in his 3rd fight, taguchi was a future unified world champion. this is just me talking about inoues first 9 fights lol

what do you mean by prime? if you are talking about bantamweight or flyweight (which are the only 2 weight classes they have shared) inoue would most likely demolish pac at those weights, pac was hurt by nedal hussein and was saved by the referee from a tko loss.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

there is absolutely no doubt inoue is hof, that is undisputable, he is the greatest fighter to ever come out of japan and the 2nd greatest asian fighter ever after pacquiao as of now. 4 weights and 2 times undisputed, did pac ever even unify once in his life? did you see what inoue did to adrian hernandez who was making the 6th defense of his title, in inoue's 6th fight? did you see what inoue did narvez who was 43-1 (losing to a prime donaire by decision) and holds the record of his division with 27 defences, inoue wiped him out in 2 rounds, in only his 8th fight. he beat taguchi in his 3rd fight, taguchi was a future unified world champion. this is just me talking about inoues first 9 fights lol

what do you mean by prime? if you are talking about bantamweight or flyweight (which are the only 2 weight classes they have shared) inoue would most likely demolish pac at those weights, pac was hurt by nedal hussein and was saved by the referee from a tko loss.

By "Prime" I mean when Pac was in his mid 20's, not 19, obviously. Inoue is 31, I find it doubtful he goes up more than one more class. So yes, their primes dont line up, though you could say Inoue really just enjoys the power advantave he has since he first fought at 19, and that he wants no part of guys with big power. Old Donaire was a decent hitter and he blew his eye out with one punch. Nery dropped him with one punch.

Pac took some early losses and then in his prime blew through great comp. From flyweight to WW.

Inoue has been undisputed at weight classes without near the level of talent of the upper weight classes. Yes, he is a good fighter and a HOF. But sorry, he won't ever be seen as anywhere near Pac or Floyd because he is beating mostly non punchers, and the dude is a huge puncher FOR THAT WEIGHT. I keep saying he is good and HOF, but as Ive stated, apparently people feel the need to apologize for him not moving up any higher at 31, to where the guys with power may make his life not so easy.


This is all obvious. There is at this point like an Inoue cult. It's ******.

But OH NO NO, no one dare say that Inoue is not the best fighter ever! Haters!!!!
LOL. So dumb.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Let me put it this way. A kid plays middle school basketball in a small town and he is a superstar. Sets records in scoring, best defensive player, just obviously above all the other kids. Taller, more athletic, stronger.

The kid goes to high school in the same small town and is the star of the team. But he isn't setting records anymore and his team isn't that great. But he still is obviously a great player.

The kid gets picked up by a Div 2 basketball team. Does well, scores alot. He gets an offer from a Div 1 team. He is now a good role player. Has a solid career.

He doesn't get drafted by the NBA but manages to walk on with a team. He is let go after a season and plays overseas for a few years.

What happened? At every level, his talent gave less returns because the guys he was going up against were getting better, stronger and he wasn't that special. It is special to even PLAY in the NBA or at Div 1 level....most never do.

In that scenario, Pac is equatable to Jordan, Floyd is similar to Lebron, IMO. Both guys went WAAAY beyond the norm and succeeded against the best of their era.

Inoue MIGHT do that. But at 31, I don't think so. If he was going to try and move up and fight bigger punchers and better fighters, he would have done it by now. But maybe he will? I'm all for it if he does.