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  • #21
    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

    You're acting like he's Deontay Wilder.


    Inoue and Beterbiev are guys who are exceptional boxers but ppl don't seem to notice it due to his power. His fight against Fulton was a bloody masterclass.
    whats funny is wilder has a 25% ko ratio against top 10 opponents while innoue has a 85.5% ko ratio against top 10 opponents yet people will still say silly things like wilder biggest puncher ever
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    • #22
      Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

      Pacquiao is no where near to inoue in boxing skills.
      Wow. Ok. It's cool to have a favorite fighter, but you are off the rails. Inoue has good ring IQ and is a good fighter. He comes forward and hurts dude and stops them. A fantastic style to watch. He is basic in terms of how he fights. Pac was never basic. He used angles, hand speed, had great feet and had KO power in both hands.

      Next you will he saying Pac was no good because he has losses. Pac beat the biggest names in the sport during his run and KO'd many of them.

      Just fanboy on man. No point in responding, not sure why I am.
      Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 09-08-2024, 02:46 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

        Wow. Ok. It's cool to have a favorite fighter, but you are off the rails. Inoue has good ring IQ and is a good fighter. He comes forward and hurts dude and stops them. A fantastic style to watch. He is basic in terms of how he fights. Pac was never basic. He used angles, hand speed, had great feet and had KO power in both hands.

        Next you will he saying Pac was no good because he has losses. Pac beat the biggest names in the sport during his run and KO'd many of them.

        Just fanboy on man. No point in responding, not sure why I am.
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        So far Inoue has not forced anyone to fight him at catchweights.
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        • #24
          He's going to go down as 1 of the greatest littlemen of all time. He is a seriously special talent that would be a global superstar if he was 147lb +

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          • #25
            Well, spence was considered good and even a great win for bud.? But inoue beating people in his 4th weight class, easier than spence does in his 1st division.
            Join the dots.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 09-08-2024, 03:28 PM.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              So far Inoue has not forced anyone to fight him at catchweights.
              Because he is fighting close to his natural weight?

              Christ, Pac was fighting guys who were literally walking around at 170 and higher. Pac walked around at the weight he actually fought at. No rehydration nonsense.

              Inoue will have to go up to 144 to do what Pac did. I mean will he? I don't really think so, but Pac was freakishly talented and his power carried as he gained muscle.

              If Inoue keeps going up and stops a bunch of great fighters and matches Pac or exceeds him, I will je the first to applaud. But the reason Pac is considered so special is because he achieved all of that. It was a great time to be a fan.

              But saying Inoue probably isn't going to do that, is not taking away from the fact that he is damn good with insane power at the lower weights. The lower weights are not superstar talents, that is why Inoue will have a hard time being in the all timer discussion. As the weight goes up the power rises and guys have a lot less room for error.

              Inoue fanboys are special. Dude is a badass. But to them, say he has to achieve it in the ring first and it's saying he sucks.

              And if Inoue ever gets to 147 and asks for a catchweight, NO one will belittle him, just like they didn't Pac. Pac is a tiny dude.
              Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 09-08-2024, 03:59 PM.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Well, spence was considered good and even a great win for bud.? But inoue beating people in his 4th weight class, easier than spence does in his 1st division.
                Join the dots.
                The comp isn't the same. Credit to Inoue for massacring who is in front of him, but unfortunately, there aren't alot of big hitters and amazing talents at the lighter weights.

                I mean does Inoue need apologists for some reason? The dude is a killer, I am a fan. But why are people so quick to protect him when the obvious is pointed out?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by AKAcronym View Post

                  Getting beat by someone who is naturally that much bigger isn't being exposed. I don't know if I'd personally consider guys that Floyd fought that much bigger naturally. He started at 130 at 19 years old and moved up as he continued growing. Inoue is already 31 years old, so the odds of him continuing to keep moving up that much higher aren't as likely. And Pac is of course a one off in terms of how much he moved up but he's also naturally bigger than Inoue is as well.
                  I don't get your idea of natural weight, to me natural weight is healthy fit and not drying out as Manny and Floyd did dry out at the low weights and didn't do as they went higher, if Floyd and Manny are weighing in at 130lbs and Inoue is weighing in at 122 there is 8lbs between them at that point, they allowed more muscle as they moved up in divisions, their bones don't change, their fat levels only slightly change to they hit the ceiling, so the only real weight gain is muscle and fluid, both Manny and Floyd didn't have to move from 130 they did for the bigger name fights that brought them more acclaim and money.

                  So having said that we need to know what Inoues weight is on fight night to see how much he drys out for the weighin that's the important number, at 130 Manny was drying out about 14lbs, making their true Natural weight around 144/147 without drying out , if Inoue is 130/135 on fight night he can go to those weight classes and it would be the equivalent of Manny and Floyd at 140/147, his opponent would be bigger because they dry out to make the weight, just as Mannys and Floyds opponents were bigger, and Floyd and Manny fought few full blown WWs like Leonard and Hearns, its all about drying out and fight night weight. and the key question is what does Inoue weight on fight night.
                  Last edited by Roadblock; 09-08-2024, 07:38 PM.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

                    Wow. Ok. It's cool to have a favorite fighter, but you are off the rails. Inoue has good ring IQ and is a good fighter. He comes forward and hurts dude and stops them. A fantastic style to watch. He is basic in terms of how he fights. Pac was never basic. He used angles, hand speed, had great feet and had KO power in both hands.

                    Next you will he saying Pac was no good because he has losses. Pac beat the biggest names in the sport during his run and KO'd many of them.

                    Just fanboy on man. No point in responding, not sure why I am.
                    What a load of SHlT man. I stopped reading after you said inoue is basic. Every hardcore knows boxing knows that inoue us way better boxer and way more skilled than pacquiao. To me it seems like you're Filipino cause they always say the same BS things as you.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

                      The comp isn't the same. Credit to Inoue for massacring who is in front of him, but unfortunately, there aren't alot of big hitters and amazing talents at the lighter weights.

                      I mean does Inoue need apologists for some reason? The dude is a killer, I am a fan. But why are people so quick to protect him when the obvious is pointed out?
                      Dude everything you say about inoue is the same SHlT that casuals say.
                      Last edited by BoxWhere; 09-08-2024, 09:27 PM.

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