I think Inoue looks beatable at 122 and above.

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  • The D3vil
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    #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    That's not holding bud to same standards then. Bud should have moved up 5 years ago then. And not hung around at WW so long
    The best/most lucrative fight was Spence.

    Spence was a universally ranked top 5-10P4P fighter & the mot valuable scalp around.

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    • deathofaclown
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      #32
      126 is his limit in terms of beating good fighters

      I agree he is more beatable at 122 also, but I just think he's too talented for the others around there right now.

      126 is where size will start to counteract his talent in a bigger way.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The D3vil
        The best/most lucrative fight was Spence.

        Spence was a universally ranked top 5-10P4P fighter & the mot valuable scalp around.
        Part of the reason I want to see Inoue vs Nakatani next year before he moves to feather is that

        Fulton was supposed to be the in his prime slick skilled borderline P4P fighter that Inoue was going to have the higest challenge in his career and a significant test, who suddenly became an overrated featherfisted average beltholder with flaws that was easy picking for Inoue after he dismantled him. At least Nakatani is actually in the P4P as of now and the only realistic opponent Inoue has in his weight class vicinity, because unfortunately Bam is a bit too far still.

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        • Ctx94
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          #34
          Originally posted by The D3vil

          That's not true at all.

          Bud controlled the hell out of that fight.

          It was an 8-4/9-3 fight easy.

          Madrimov just did better than people thought because they didn't know him.
          Buds the man but he can’t be p4p number 1 anymore with that kind of performance against somebody with ten fights

          he had a long run I personally had him number one since ward retired and they tried to crown that duck canelo despite aging ggg out and running back to 154 to wait and hide
          Last edited by Ctx94; 09-05-2024, 02:16 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by deathofaclown
            126 is his limit in terms of beating good fighters

            I agree he is more beatable at 122 also, but I just think he's too talented for the others around there right now.

            126 is where size will start to counteract his talent in a bigger way.
            Exactly how I see it.

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              #36
              I think he can win a title at 126. he will struggle, but he is a top fighter, he should go for it.

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              • The D3vil
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                #37
                Originally posted by Ctx94

                Buds the man but he can’t be p4p number 1 anymore with that kind of performance against somebody with ten fights

                he had a long run I personally had him number one since ward retired and they tried to crown that duck canelo despite aging ggg out and running back to 154 to wait and hide
                That's a ridiculous metric.

                Lomachenko & Usyk were both P4P #1s with under 20 fights.

                Guillermo Rigondeaux was on every P4P list in the world in 10-15 fights.

                Guys who come from the Eastern European/Cuban schools of boxing that are amateurs for a long time turn pro late, that's why they don't have that many fights.

                Madrimov is 30 years old.

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                • Ctx94
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The D3vil

                  That's a ridiculous metric.

                  Lomachenko & Usyk were both P4P #1s with under 20 fights.

                  Guillermo Rigondeaux was on every P4P list in the world in 10-15 fights.

                  Guys who come from the Eastern European/Cuban schools of boxing that are amateurs for a long time turn pro late, that's why they don't have that many fights.

                  Madrimov is 30 years old.
                  Madrimov didn’t fight Gary Russel jr his first fight

                  or Orlando salido his 2nd fight


                  and Rigo beat prime nonito donaire in his 12th fight

                  Its ridiculous to try and give bud credit like he beat a Lomachenko/Rigo level fighter

                  robeisy Ramirez got knocked out by some random guy…

                  bud struggled with a guy with 10 fights… bottom line
                  Last edited by Ctx94; 09-08-2024, 06:11 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The D3vil

                    I disagree.

                    Monster's been knocked down multiple times.

                    Bud's beaten everybody convincingly.

                    He's never had a controversial decision & never been knocked down.
                    Monster has been knocked down once. Same amount as Bud.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Ctx94

                      Madrimov didn’t fight Gary Russel jr his first fight

                      or Orlando salido his 2nd fight


                      and Rigo beat prime nonito donaire in his 12th fight

                      Its ridiculous to try and give bud credit like he beat a Lomachenko/Rigo level fighter

                      robeisy Ramirez got knocked out by some random guy…

                      bud struggled with a guy with 10 fights… bottom line
                      Madrimov hasn't had the opportunity to fight a Donaire type fighter.

                      His outing against Bud proves he's a quality fighter, which is why you don't see guys at 154-160 calling him out in mass

                      He's 30 years old & an accomplished Eastern bloc fighter.

                      You act like he's a 22 year old novice.

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