Comments Thread For: Canelo backs Bivol to beat Benavidez, says he 'did nothing at 175 pounds'

[LAchargers373]

There have been a lot of breakdowns and by every account the numbers are up there. IMO, 100 million is likely at the higher end but in either case, it's a lot of money. Assuming that Canelo is a great businessman, which he is, the only logical reason for Canelo to reject that kind of money is the risk factor.

First, before I go any further, there's no evidence that Canelo gives a shyt if he doesn't gets credit for beating guys he is supposed to beat. Canelo didn't care if he got credit for beating up Ryder, Mungia, Khan and the list goes on, it's a nonsense excuse up there with "I don't fight Mexicans."

No, the risk is not if he wins but if he doesn't win....because in that scenario the flood gates will open, every fight revisited and his legacy will be damaged. Similar to Wilder (with much better opponent selection) Canelo may believe he's better off avoiding big money, big risk fights and make up for it with a few more (can't lose) fights and retire.

In the end, I believe Canelo will retire before he fights Crawford, Morrell, Benavidez, Bivol or anyone he didn't hand pick.

Crawford ain’t that much of a threat though cmon man. We all saw the Madrimov fight. Madrimov won 5 rounds unquestionably. Bud won 7 that was an accurate and fair score imo. That’s bud against a guy who isn’t even the best at 154. Ofc there’s always the chance he could lose but it’s not even close to the same risk as Bivol/beterbiev/morrel/benevidez. No one thinks bud could stand a chance against those guys yet everyone screams for canelo to fight them. Then they also think crawford can beat him lol. It’s just not logical imo

[factsarenice]

I highly doubt turki is offering 100M for Crawford vs canelo though. If he is offering that money Canelo would be a FOOL to not take it. Not hating on Crawford but I don’t see how Canelo loses that fight

There have been a lot of breakdowns and by every account the numbers are up there. IMO, 100 million is likely at the higher end but in either case, it's a lot of money. Assuming that Canelo is a great businessman, which he is, the only logical reason for Canelo to reject that kind of money is the risk factor.

First, before I go any further, there's no evidence that Canelo gives a shyt if he doesn't gets credit for beating guys he is supposed to beat. Canelo didn't care if he got credit for beating up Ryder, Mungia, Khan and the list goes on, it's a nonsense excuse up there with "I don't fight Mexicans."

No, the risk is not if he wins but if he doesn't win....because in that scenario the flood gates will open, every fight revisited and his legacy will be damaged. Similar to Wilder (with much better opponent selection) Canelo may believe he's better off avoiding big money, big risk fights and make up for it with a few more (can't lose) fights and retire.

In the end, I believe Canelo will retire before he fights Crawford, Morrell, Benavidez, Bivol or anyone he didn't hand pick.

[LAchargers373]

I agree but that doesn't explain why Canelo is fighting Berlanga for 30 mil and not Crawford for 80-100.

What confuses me even more is the sanctioning bodies allowing Canelo to prove to the world that the WBA, WBC, WBO have rules that don't apply if you make enough money. At some point fans will admit that they belts can be bought (likely after Canelo retires) and when they do, they'll question the need for their existence.

I highly doubt turki is offering 100M for Crawford vs canelo though. If he is offering that money Canelo would be a FOOL to not take it. Not hating on Crawford but I don’t see how Canelo loses that fight

[factsarenice]

Not saying you are wrong but some people like money. You can’t judge a pro athlete for choosing money over “legacy”. If you knew any pro athletes personally you would understand this.

I agree but that doesn't explain why Canelo is fighting Berlanga for 30 mil and not Crawford for 80-100.

What confuses me even more is the sanctioning bodies allowing Canelo to prove to the world that the WBA, WBC, WBO have rules that don't apply if you make enough money. At some point fans will admit that they belts can be bought (likely after Canelo retires) and when they do, they'll question the need for their existence.

[LAchargers373]

Damn
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"Dumber"
Plz Still Trolling me?
Get a Life
"Ninkimpoop"
I'm trying my best to ignore you
But
Anyone Boxingscene Fan reading this.....
Tell LAchargers373 to plz stop contacting me
I wanna talk about Boxing not hear about his Dream/Fantasy Life

Hey man I’m embracing you. Now we know why you don’t have a family and kids lmao. I apologize for not realizing it from the start it was so obvious. I hope you find happiness with your partner and I’m glad you were able to express yourself at the pride parade. Fort Lauderdale may be a safe haven for broken jokes but it’s also a safe haven for your community. All the best little buddy. We’re rooting for you!

[greeneye99]

Hahahaha you’re so mad crawford doesn’t know you ROFL. All the time u spend hanging from his nuts and dude could care less lol. Don’t make me post receipts from you ducking in Miami you clown. Stay in Fort Lauderdale the hole in the wall of America. How was the pride parade btw? Heheheh

Damn
Mr can't spell Properly is Back!
"Dumber"
Plz Still Trolling me?
Get a Life
"Ninkimpoop"
I'm trying my best to ignore you
But
Anyone Boxingscene Fan reading this.....
Tell LAchargers373 to plz stop contacting me
I wanna talk about Boxing not hear about his Dream/Fantasy Life

[LAchargers373]

Wow
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(TROLL)
Every month You keep Reading & Responding to all my Post
& Still losing all the Boxing Bet Predictions
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Keep it up for next month Sept
Thanks for Attention!!!

Hahahaha you’re so mad crawford doesn’t know you ROFL. All the time u spend hanging from his nuts and dude could care less lol. Don’t make me post receipts from you ducking in Miami you clown. Stay in Fort Lauderdale the hole in the wall of America. How was the pride parade btw? Heheheh

[LAchargers373]

Facts are facts...... Benny is fighting the guy that beat Canelo's ass and Canelo fighting Berlanga.

Not saying you are wrong but some people like money. You can’t judge a pro athlete for choosing money over “legacy”. If you knew any pro athletes personally you would understand this.

[champion4ever]

The hilarious thing is hearing Canelo's nut huggers make excuses for him not fighting Benavidez, like referring to losing his title on the scale and his drug use or saying he needs to fight Morrell to prove his worth. Then there's Alvarez himself, saying David doesn't bring anything but 25lbs. And what exactly does noob Berlanga bring? The truth is that Benavidez brings one hell of a difficult fight to Canelo and possibly defeats him. Berlanga brings inexperience and a sure victory for Canelo.

That was well said! Good post!

[SUBZER0ED]

Strongly disagree. As long as both fighters stay active the fight still possible imo, Canelo may be 6 years older but he doubles or triples Bennys experience fighting at the highest level, lets not even begin with each fighter style, you know damn well Canelo struggles with Elite Movers( Floyd-Bivol) not so much with flatfooted pressure punchers like Benny. Even with difference in size and age its huge step up for Benavides more than it is for the ginger. As for the crazy money demand, even Benavidez promoter said isn't that crazy figure to reach and with Turki The Dictator now in the scene everything is possible.

Btw, I wouldn't call that Bivol offer a 'lowball' considering it was his highest purse ever back then. Plus you forgot the fact Bivol wanted 168 undisputed not running it back at 175 like Canelo originally wanted.

Now, all you have to do is convince Canelo of all that drivel, because he seems to doubt it. Turki has expressed that Alvarez is asking the world to fight Benavidez. Just because he's rich doesn't mean that he'll bow to Canelo's will.

And the first fight vs Canelo made Bivol more money than he'd made before. The offer for the second fight was the same. Now, given that Bivol defeated Alvarez, why would he accept the same purse for the rematch? Saul knew that Dimitru would be insulted by that offer and decline it, and when he offered to fight him @ 168, Cinnamon would have none of it.