What was the point of moving boxing to streaming services if all they're going to do is continue to have PPV fights?

[IAmABoxingGuru]

Seems all they want to do is PPV. What's the point of the streaming services. Seems similar to HBO and Showtime, you had to pay for the Channel and the Pay for Pay Per views when a "big" fight occurred.

[Bullrider]

You can't dump all the blame on the platform or broadcaster. Boxers and their managers have large appetite for money. Investors would rather do it on subscription basis, but the only solution for them is to distract these greedy people and tell them they'll do it on PPV knowing full well no one is buying PPVs. So then these greedy people would agree to have their guarantees and make them hope they'll get extra for the PPV buys.

In other words, they're not doing it because they're making huge money. They're doing it to quell greedy boxer's restlessness and uncompromising attitudes. It's the only way.

[nghtmr111]

Still remember DAZN slogan saying PPV is dead

[a5pe4]

Still remember DAZN slogan saying PPV is dead

Was very good in theory lol. Wish that would have worked.

[STREET CLEANER]

I tried DANZ and once they were charging for their PPVs I was out. What is the use if you have to pay a subscription and then pay extra, defeats the whole purpose.

[TMLT87]

It is pretty dumb. Especially with DAZN considering their whole platform was built around killing traditional PPV.

[TintaBoricua]

I tried DANZ and once they were charging for their PPVs I was out. What is the use if you have to pay a subscription and then pay extra, defeats the whole purpose.

It’s a goodwill approach in theory to make a non-PPV platform but the top dogs make so much money now that they expect colossal figures. When they first signed Canelo (I think within the year they had the Kovalev match-up), I remember thinking to myself, “Canelo is going to be on DAZN and we can watch his fights with a mere subscription?! And we’re going to have the third GGG fight (eventually) with no PPV cost? How is this possible? How are they making enough money to justify signing Canelo to the platform with a colossal figure?”

And right on time, they noticed that it was not sustainable.

I don’t mind the occasional PPV because not all deserve to be on it. They’re welcome to try, but fans vote with their wallet and, unless it’s a tantalizing match-up, the company itself is one that ends up in the red, not the fighter.

Also, the primary point (or incentive) of having a streaming service like DAZN is one and one only: watching fights live. That’s all it is…year round. Some years might be better than others, but that’s the gamble we fight freaks go through unfortunately. It’s getting pretty pricey. It doesn’t do anything to grow the sport.

Pay $150 for Amazon Prime and get a year’s worth of movies and content OR pay $225(?) for DAZN and get a year’s worth of fights, plus $60-$80 a pop for the BIG BIG fights? The casual will make that calculation in their head and go, “Are you fookin’ kiddin’ me?!”

Even for someone like ME, who makes watching a Saturday night fight an event and is willing to pay the annual subscription price, I have to reel myself back in and try to limit myself to only buying 2 or 3 at most…and even then, there’s a layer of guilt by the end of the year around me so strong that I strongly urge the wife and kids to NOT get me anything for Christmas because I’ve done spent too much on fisticuffs.

Boxing is a niche and acquired state in the majority of its fight cards.

[STREET CLEANER]

It’s a goodwill approach in theory to make a non-PPV platform but the top dogs make so much money now that they expect colossal figures. When they first signed Canelo (I think within the year they had the Kovalev match-up), I remember thinking to myself, “Canelo is going to be on DAZN and we can watch his fights with a mere subscription?! And we’re going to have the third GGG fight (eventually) with no PPV cost? How is this possible? How are they making enough money to justify signing Canelo to the platform with a colossal figure?”

And right on time, they noticed that it was not sustainable.

I don’t mind the occasional PPV because not all deserve to be on it. They’re welcome to try, but fans vote with their wallet and, unless it’s a tantalizing match-up, the company itself is one that ends up in the red, not the fighter.

Also, the primary point (or incentive) of having a streaming service like DAZN is one and one only: watching fights live. That’s all it is…year round. Some years might be better than others, but that’s the gamble we fight freaks go through unfortunately. It’s getting pretty pricey. It doesn’t do anything to grow the sport.

Pay $150 for Amazon Prime and get a year’s worth of movies and content OR pay $225(?) for DAZN and get a year’s worth of fights, plus $60-$80 a pop for the BIG BIG fights? The casual will make that calculation in their head and go, “Are you fookin’ kiddin’ me?!”

Even for someone like ME, who makes watching a Saturday night fight an event and is willing to pay the annual subscription price, I have to reel myself back in and try to limit myself to only buying 2 or 3 at most…and even then, there’s a layer of guilt by the end of the year around me so strong that I strongly urge the wife and kids to NOT get me anything for Christmas because I’ve done spent too much on fisticuffs.

Boxing is a niche and acquired state in the majority of its fight cards.

That is the issue, any match ups with name fighters go on PPV. They are so many cards that should not be on PPV and the undercards are no better. It is no different than before, you have to have a better service of cable to get ESPN to able to watch the fights and then pay for HBO and Showtime for marquee fighters. Only the big events were on ppv because I saw many good matchups in the HBO and Showtime cards.

They did an app stating that it was the end of ppv but they went back to the same formula. I don't care about their finances because they have be more inventive and create a product that the masses will actually pay for. Once Turki is done the sport will go backwards.

[TintaBoricua]

That is the issue, any match ups with name fighters go on PPV. They are so many cards that should not be on PPV and the undercards are no better. It is no different than before, you have to have a better service of cable to get ESPN to able to watch the fights and then pay for HBO and Showtime for marquee fighters. Only the big events were on ppv because I saw many good matchups in the HBO and Showtime cards.

They did an app stating that it was the end of ppv but they went back to the same formula. I don't care about their finances because they have be more inventive and create a product that the masses will actually pay for. Once Turki is done the sport will go backwards.

That’s something people seldom discuss here. The byproduct of Turki abruptly leaving is going to be a major downshift in quality of fights and it will be much more noticeable the longer he hangs around.

DAZN recently started doing something that some of its subscribers have been clamoring for, but I dunno if it’s enough, really.

I noticed about two or three weeks ago they had a discount on the Mayweather/Gotti PPV for annual DAZN subscribers for 15%. I’m not saying that it was a legit PPV (I honestly didn’t give a rat’s ass for that), but they applied it for the wrong fight, and the PPV was $50, so in essence the discount wasn’t that large enough to even give it consideration. Who the hell was the target audience for that match anyway?

If DAZN had more gratitude and wanted to reward its faithful subscribers, they would offer deep discounts to those who have stuck around or renewed consistently throughout the years. Unfortunately,

1-I’m out of the loop because there was about a year or two where I left their platform.

2-In order for them to sift through who’s been around long enough and who hasn’t, I’d imagine they’d have to hire a programmer/coder to build something with it he software to sift through and categorize all the users into different sets. If you’ve been with DAZN for a year, you get a 10% discount on all PPV’s. If you’ve been a subscriber for two years straight, 15% discount on all PPV’s. 3 years, 20%. And so on and so forth capping at 35-40%.

One can only dream.

[STREET CLEANER]

That’s something people seldom discuss here. The byproduct of Turki abruptly leaving is going to be a major downshift in quality of fights and it will be much more noticeable the longer he hangs around.

DAZN recently started doing something that some of its subscribers have been clamoring for, but I dunno if it’s enough, really.

I noticed about two or three weeks ago they had a discount on the Mayweather/Gotti PPV for annual DAZN subscribers for 15%. I’m not saying that it was a legit PPV (I honestly didn’t give a rat’s ass for that), but they applied it for the wrong fight, and the PPV was $50, so in essence the discount wasn’t that large enough to even give it consideration. Who the hell was the target audience for that match anyway?

If DAZN had more gratitude and wanted to reward its faithful subscribers, they would offer deep discounts to those who have stuck around or renewed consistently throughout the years. Unfortunately,

1-I’m out of the loop because there was about a year or two where I left their platform.

2-In order for them to sift through who’s been around long enough and who hasn’t, I’d imagine they’d have to hire a programmer/coder to build something with it he software to sift through and categorize all the users into different sets. If you’ve been with DAZN for a year, you get a 10% discount on all PPV’s. If you’ve been a subscriber for two years straight, 15% discount on all PPV’s. 3 years, 20%. And so on and so forth capping at 35-40%.

One can only dream.

Too bad that in order to watch boxing one must pay. Rarely you get something on regular TV in the USA. All those networks that aired second tier fighters, up and coming fighters don't exist anymore. Difficult to follow the sport when you don't see the dark horses and the young fighters making their way to the top.

Reading about them in social media is simply not enough.