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  • Poopdick
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    #41
    Originally posted by rudy

    Was not impressed looks the part but when he on the chin he will fall apart Cruz
    yeah looked that way for sure

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Makes really good sense business wise and opener wise. Now he will be in with more talented opposition that will force him to step his game up.

      Looking forward to him v Zepeda after he destroys cortina.

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      • factsarenice
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        #43
        Originally posted by boxingitis
        Where was the PBC offer?
        Oh No You Dint​!

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        • factsarenice
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          #44
          Originally posted by Mr WorldWide

          Common sense is only allowed to enter the States on a Tourist Visa.
          Now THAT'S funny! And YES, I intend to steal it!
          Last edited by factsarenice; 08-23-2024, 10:15 AM.

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          • steeve steel
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            #45
            Correction: the card is not stacked. It all about the headliner, and the rest is pretty much garbage, except the rematch between Wardley and Clarke.

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            • factsarenice
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Makes really good sense business wise and opener wise. Now he will be in with more talented opposition that will force him to step his game up.

              Looking forward to him v Zepeda after he destroys cortina.
              Zepeda would be great because he'll force Shakur to be offensive, if only to keep him off.

              But what next?

              ​Shakur tried to go the Tank route at 135lbs but he clearly doesn't have the right style or draw to have opponents come to him and I don't think they ever will.

              As I see it, if Shakur wants big fights he'll need to move up to 140lbs were Match-room has depth and most of the former lightweights with names are. Unfortunately for Shakur, he's not a big guy that shrunk down to lightweight like Hanny and Teo. Not only does Shakur need to gain weight and fight bigger guys like Lomachanko did, but making matters worse, Shakur is a risk averse guy and the transition is not the same or even close.

              In my opinion, 140lbs is very risky for a guy like Shakur......BUT that's were the money is, and nobody is going to give it to him.

              I could be wrong, but I don't see another path to big fights.
              Last edited by factsarenice; 08-23-2024, 10:14 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by boxingitis
                F_ck it Shakur vs Cruz
                Badass fight winner gets a fight with tank ideally

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by factsarenice

                  Zepeda would be great because he'll force Shakur to be offensive, if only to keep him off.

                  But what next?

                  ​Shakur tried to go the Tank route at 135lbs but he clearly doesn't have the right style or draw to have opponents come to him and I don't think they ever will.

                  As I see it, if Shakur wants big fights he'll need to move up to 140lbs were Match-room has depth and most of the former lightweights with names are. Unfortunately for Shakur, he's not a big guy that shrunk down to lightweight like Hanny and Teo. Not only does Shakur need to gain weight and fight bigger guys like Lomachanko did, but making matters worse, Shakur is a risk averse guy and the transition is not the same or even close.

                  In my opinion, 140lbs is very risky for a guy like Shakur......BUT that's were the money is, and nobody is going to give it to him.

                  I could be wrong, but I don't see another path to big fights.
                  I think we collectively need to look at how Shakur performs against the big names he’s fought and how Bob let Loma duck him to truly judge how he will fight in the big spots.

                  Yes, when in with low reward, high risk guys he fought like he was the only one with something to lose- cautious, overly defensive, just enough to win and not risk getting hurt.

                  When in with Valdez, he looked every bit a star. I fully expect he would’ve done same, if not better, against Loma had he not ducked. I also expect same with Zepeda as you suggest. I think he beats Tank.

                  Shakur should be fine if he simply fights at a higher pace when in the showcase fights.

                  My theory will be tested against Cortina. Anything short of a dominant performance will not be good.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Boxviewer
                    I genuinely don't get it why some Americans are so mad at Hearn. Pro boxers are prize fighters who risk their lives in exchange for money and the job of a promoter is to make sure his fighter gets as much as possible $$$ in every fight he gets. So, guys use common sense.

                    The era of legacy is gone long time ago and you have to know that by now.
                    That's what I'm not getting also. PBC fans were celebrating when the news about Stevenson leaving Top Rank were coming out. Yet PBC wants nothing to do with him. PBC and its fans are so out of sync.

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                    • factsarenice
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      I think we collectively need to look at how Shakur performs against the big names he’s fought and how Bob let Loma duck him to truly judge how he will fight in the big spots.

                      Yes, when in with low reward, high risk guys he fought like he was the only one with something to lose- cautious, overly defensive, just enough to win and not risk getting hurt.

                      When in with Valdez, he looked every bit a star. I fully expect he would’ve done same, if not better, against Loma had he not ducked. I also expect same with Zepeda as you suggest. I think he beats Tank.

                      Shakur should be fine if he simply fights at a higher pace when in the showcase fights.

                      My theory will be tested against Cortina. Anything short of a dominant performance will not be good.
                      Time will tell, I beleive Shakur is the best 135lb fighter today but Tank isn't interested and Lomachanko is done.

                      As for the ducking...I don't see that at all. Lomachanko fought both Teofimo Lopez and Devin Hanny, both bigger and far more dangerous than Shakur Stevenson. Neither Teofimo or Devin fought Shakur for the same reason Lomachanko didn't...no incentive, no belt, nothing. Shakur had nothing they needed and that has always been Shakur's problem. Besides, Shakur was at 130 when Lomachanko was focused on belts and unification.

                      Lomachanko didn't want to fight Kambosos, or Tank, not even for the money. He's father was pushing both but he is burned out on boxing. Today, eyeball test, I think Loachanko is not the same and Shakur should win by close decision and do the same with Tank but those fights are not going to happen. Lomachanko is done and Tank has a strict business plan that doesn't include the best of the best or Shakur Stevenson.
                      Last edited by factsarenice; 08-23-2024, 11:30 AM.

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