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  • Smash
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    #51
    hey andre did u see the things that people say about u, A-side cheating fouling privileged guy who got all his super six fights at home, the only guy to do this, swiped kovalevs belt on a dodgy decision then got cashed out by jay-z in the rematch for millions, is this fair or horrible?

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    • Theshotyoudontsee
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      #52
      Originally posted by wrecksracer

      you're right, I confused McEnroe with Bobby Knight. Both celebrated as legends while Serena Williams is called a literal animal.
      Serena Williams is a literal brand. Worth millions, considered the best female tennis player ever.

      Who is calling her an animal? What are you even talking about? She is built like a dude with boobs, at least she was in her playing days. But she is very pretty, objectively so.

      I mean you do understand that there are white people who don't like black people, and there are black people who don't like white people? There are asians that hate whites and blacks, black and whites who hate asians. etc. There are people who hate everyone, called misanthropes.

      Point being, you seem alot more worried about how black people are treated, rather than worried about how humans simply treat each other. Why? It's like you see black people as your wards or something. It's a free country. But do you see how racist you sound?

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      • billeau2
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        #53
        Originally posted by hitmanjosh
        I support Claressa Shields 1000% but let's be honest women boxing has limited competition and it's weak at best! I believe she not in the same era as when Layla and Ann Wolf were fighting because they could go as well, but what we are seeing isn't enough development within the sport when it comes to women. I also believe that any fighter should let your work stand out not your voice. I will say this, if Claressa were not black she would be the greatest thing since slice bread and would earn much more than her worth currently that's the sad part about her career in my opinion. She currently is the GWOAT!

        Woman's combatives have always been inconsistent and it is true that Layla and Wolf were harder to compete against than many of today's fighters.

        The real proof of how Clarissa would be treated if she was not Black can be seen with the treatment of Katie Taylor... A fighter whom I think, is protected, has gotten gift decisions and benefitted from the shorter rounds these days. Serrano had her... also Katie lost two fights before that where she was gifted a decision.
        Last edited by billeau2; 08-20-2024, 03:12 PM.

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        • Smash
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          #54
          Originally posted by billeau2

          Woman's combatives have always been inconsistent and it is true that Layla and Wolf were harder to compete against than many of today's fighters.

          The real proof of how Clarissa would be treated if she was not Black can be seen with the treatment of Katie Taylor... A fighter whom I think, is protected, has gotten gift decisions and benefitted from the shorter rounds these days. Serrano had her... also Katie lost two fights before that where she was gifted a decision.
          a side decisions are not dished out based on race tho, everybody has a home town home country home promotion house fighter etc, many could argue the only fight taylor actually lost that she got the decision was persoon 1 & that was close too

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          • TheOneAboveAll
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            #55
            Originally posted by Butt stuff

            Unfortunately women's boxing is not deep in the slightest, so all of their records look like that – but Claressa is the only one beating them all. Not only beating, but winning almost all the rounds handily.
            So, effectively, she is the tallest midget.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Butt stuff

              Unfortunately women's boxing is not deep in the slightest, so all of their records look like that – but Claressa is the only one beating them all. Not only beating, but winning almost all the rounds handily.
              Take a look at the number of fighters in each division. There's more fighters in each of lightweight and below than in every discussion in which Shields competes. That's 167 total fighters from light middleweight to heavyweight. There's levels to the lack of depth in women's boxing. We're talking literal orders of magnitude here. When we start talking about men's boxing, since she's declared that her accomplishments are equivalent to those of the men who have accomplished the same thing, it's even more ridiculous. It's not her fault that there's so little competition, but it IS her fault if she's going to be disrespectful of other fighters.

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                #57
                Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

                To put her career into perspective, this is the 7-2 trailer park mom from whom the GWOAT won her most recent title. The devil is always in the details.

                vanessa-lepage-joanisse.jpg
                Sexyyy. Little bit of meth and she'd be a welterweight.

                You cant even say s e x y

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                • wrecksracer
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

                  Why? It's like you see black people as your wards or something. It's a free country. But do you see how racist you sound?
                  wow! You're reaching there

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                    #59
                    Shields is her own worst enemy when it comes to public life... Taking the G-h-e-t-t-o Trash talk as an asset, not really appealing looking, having a hard time putting two coherent sentences together, she's not what we call a must for promoters... I'll give her the nod for good skills and her achievement in what is a very shallow boxing niche... There are way more articulated and skillful ladies out there in other sports who had actual opposition to play against ...
                    Last edited by Superbee; 08-20-2024, 05:12 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Smash

                      a side decisions are not dished out based on race tho, everybody has a home town home country home promotion house fighter etc, many could argue the only fight taylor actually lost that she got the decision was persoon 1 & that was close too
                      I don't think it was a robbery but there was one fighter, I forget her name... and she bested Taylor. Not Serrano. I don't think it is only race, but I do think Taylor has an image, and it helps her considerably. Would she have that image if she was Black? Who knows! I don't think so.

                      I do think Shields like 90 percent of fighters brags... I do not think this makes her "******" or some of the other terms people use. Shields also competes in a division that does not really have the same competition as the lighter weights... I do think this needs to be said. Although strangely enough many of the all time women's fighters were in the heavier divisions.

                      No, hometown decisions are not based on race, but the idea of purity, the images one gets which are manufactured by the media often are. Does not mean Shields would not benefit from perhaps cleaning up her act as well. But this idea that Taylor is this incredible fighter are equally absurd. She throws a lot of junk and some good shots together, and is very competative. She is better for the 2 minute rounds, that would help punchers like Serrano immensely, she fights in an amatuer style that is very judge friendly, has this great narrative... The brawler that fought her obviously beat her... Which bugs me!!! lol.

                      Last edited by billeau2; 08-20-2024, 05:25 PM.

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