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  • #81
    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

    Aging is aging
    Unless one is up against BUMS
    Which GGG's resume consisted of 95% BUMS
    Again, no matter what, Nelo was ALWAYS going to be 7 years younger.
    His parents fault, yes

    GGG fought 1 maybe 2 credible opponents in his career
    Take Nelo out of the equation and he would be able to fight well into his 70s
    Just like ginger is doing. And how many credible opponents did ginger beat? Without controversy.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by garfios View Post

      If you are scare, that is fear, doesn't matter why.
      but not fear of another fighter... there's a difference...

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      • #83
        To me he's not the only fighter in the world. Fans should not focus on one man alone. And that's the problem. Not enough stars are being produced because of this obsession on just one man who can only fight 2 times a year which consists of 52 weeks. I'd rather focus on people who only want to fight once a year. That to me is 5 times worse.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

          but not fear of another fighter... there's a difference...
          It is fear of a particular fighter, he's fighting berlanga instead of benavidez so yes he is afraid of benavidez, you can rationalize and I'm sure he has done it too. He is afraid, of losing, getting beat up, getting embarrassed, whatever the reason, it's fear.
          Last edited by garfios; 08-16-2024, 10:25 AM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by daggum View Post



            he didnt do enough....5 years as #1 fighter isnt enough? he didnt fly to canelo and bum rush him therefore he didnt do enough? you are playing a really bad hand here and you know it. thats why you are making up absurd unreasonable things that mean absolutely nothing. hes going to fly to canelo and say fight me? and that will make the fight? why? can you tell me what other canelo opponents had to do that? oh yeah none. the baseline is no one has to do that, why are you making benavidez do absurd things to land the fight? canelo literally said he will only fight him for 200 million dollars aka hes not fighting him since no one makes that much per fight. canelo also said he had to beat plant to land the fight...he beat plant. no fight! why are you making excuses for a ducking coward? hes not a man. a man sticks to his word. a man doenst run scared. you are talking about instincts and competition...canelo has shown his instinct is to run! he has shown he doesnt want this competition! face reality!



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            He has definitively not done enough, Canelo Alvarez is a fighter who during his career 'Has targeted multiple divisons simultaneously, so what if David Benavidez was his number 1 Mandatory fighter, great. But during those years Canelo Alvarez was aspiring to fight opponents such as Dimtri Bivol and Gennedy Golovkin, who were and are by far greater fighters than David Benavidez on their career feats and ability.

            As I have just stated in my first and previous post in this thread 'David Benavidez does not want to fight Canelo Alvarez to the level certain people are trying to claim'.

            There have been many great opportunities for Benavidez to confront Alvarez, within physical reality 'And put direct pressure on Canelo Alvarez's competitive instincts'.

            The stage was set, during the fight week of Jaime Munguia vs Canelo Alvarez 'David Benavidez was nowhere to be seen, or even heard during the entire week. The only time I personally saw him appear, was when he was smiling somewhat apprehensively while looking in the direction of Canelo Alvarez after he had just beaten Jaime Munguia'.

            The situation between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez is in some ways similar to when Tyson Fury fought Dillian Whyte 'Whyte carried a certain type of energy towards Fury, when he was not in his presents. But when they eventually confronted each other at press conferences, and during the fight build up? Dillian Whyte was projecting a entirely different attitude, being all matey matey with Tyson Fury and his entire team'.

            I knew there and then, that Dillian Whyte is not as game for his fight vs Tyson Fury 'To the level that he has been claiming. To Whyte's credit he did take the fight, but tactically? I always believe that he should of definitively engage more in the fight build up and attempted to really inflict abuse upon Tyson Fury outside of the ring'.

            If David Benavidez would of confront Canelo Alvarez during the fight week of Munguia vs Alvarez 'The hype for that particular match up, would of went up and through the upper stratosphere for the planet'.

            The stage was set, and David Benavidez did not step up on the stage 'Maybe because he knows that it is not a great idea, to step to Canelo Alvarez in that manner'.

            Lets all be honest here, everyone right here today 'Lets all be honest'.

            Note: People are going on about David Benavidez like he is some sort of Mike Tyson, Ike Ibeabuchi, George Foreman, Sonny Liston type of fighter both inside and outside of the ring.

            None of the top level fighters, from what I see are afraid of Benavidez to that kind of level, well lets use the word intimidated 'And for sure Canelo Alvarez is not'.

            David Benavidez is a fighter, who is most likely a Cruiserweight Fighter 'Who feels the need to weight drain himself, in order to be the big man on fight night'.

            So all this talk of Canelo Alvarez being the fighter who is afraid is far from the truth in my opinion 'David Benavidez is the fighter who appears to be the most apprehensive out of the two fighters. Because it is a fact, that Benavidez has not challenged himself to the same level as Canelo Alvarez.

            David Benavidez is a solid world level fighter for sure, with a style and attributes that are very easy to admire 'But not really that sophisticated or elite'.

            Take a good look at their boxing resumes, Canelo Alvarez's resume is by far superior 'His experience at World and Elite level, is vastly more impressively. Regardless of whether Alvarez's has won all of those fights is irrelevant, what is important is that? He has fought at a very high level skill for skill, and that experience is playing a apart in his longevity in the game'.

            To conclude: I know that certain people, are yearning for a certain type of fighter 'You all want some of these Modern fighters to be that bad guy, like a Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston or George Foreman. In fact it is not about being a bad guy, it is about having a certain attitude and being competitive whether it be inside or outside the ring. Without me going into extreme detail, people here know what I am talking about? You all know the type of fighter, which I am talking about.

            And if you do know? Then you will be aware that type of fighter 'Is not really about in this modern era of boxing'.

            David Benavidez from what I can see 'Is not that type of fighter'.

            The onus is on David Benavidez as the challenger to pursue and confront Canelo Alvarez 'From what I have observed, there has never been a moment or a situation were he has ever stepped to Canelo Alvarez'.

            And in my opinion, that is because he is not game for a fight vs Canelo Alvarez to the level certain people are trying to claim etc.








            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-16-2024, 10:30 AM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Bullrider View Post
              To me he's not the only fighter in the world. Fans should not focus on one man alone. And that's the problem. Not enough stars are being produced because of this obsession on just one man who can only fight 2 times a year which consists of 52 weeks. I'd rather focus on people who only want to fight once a year. That to me is 5 times worse.
              No, not the fans fault, this is completely his fault and very easy to remedy. Fight your mandatory or vacate like he did almost 10 years ago.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by garfios View Post

                It is fear of a particular fighter, he's fighting berlanga instead of benavidez so yes he is afraid of benavidez, you can rationalize and I'm sure he has done it too. He is afraid, of losing, getting beat up, getting embarrassed, whatever the reason, it's fear.
                not so much... benavidez doesnt have what it takes to beat canelo.... but fans like yourself think otherwise (see floyd/pac fans war on here), and canelo knows this, so he's trying to get the max payout for this fight (same thing floyd did with pac).. why would he fight benavidez for the same amount as the other opponents he's fought, when he knows that people are demanding for this fight, so he knows that this fight will be bigger and will generate more money!
                Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; 08-16-2024, 10:52 AM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                  not so much... benavidez doesnt have what it takes to beat canelo.... but fans like yourself think otherwise (see floyd/pac fans war on here), and canelo knows this, so he's trying to get the max payout for this fight (same thing floyd did with pac).. why would he fight benavidez for the same amount as the other opponents he's fought, when he knows that people are demanding for this fight, so he knows that this fight will be bigger and will generate more money!
                  Didn't I agree with you that I'd favor ginger over benaidez? "Fans like me see what's going on", while fans like you creates a "truth" in their brain occupying the whole head, so there's no room for other views, and no, he's not fighting benavidez because of the money, he already priced himself out, he could offer bivol a rematch and will make a ton of money, he could choose in which division the fight could take place too, 168 or 175, we know bivol offered to come down and take his belts there too. But no, he fights ryder, munguia and berlanga while benavidez, Morrell jr and bivol are available. Again, whatever you, me and everyone else thinks, is pointless until he grows a pair and fight one of those guys. In the meantime, he is holding the division down and fighting his bum of the month.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post
                    Than Canelo is of Benavidez, in the history of the sport? Would be interested in some examples. I can't think of any. We know Bowe dumped the belt to duck Lewis but there was nowhere near as much money and demand for that fight, so I don't think its as bad as this. Canelo knows this is the biggest fight to make in the sport, his biggest pay day, and that everyone thinks he's ducking David for years, yet he still ducked him!
                    Its not fear as much as its about strategy. Remember I said this, Canelo WILL offer a fight to Benividas in about a year cause he knows that Benividas NOW cant make the weight without hurting himself.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by garfios View Post
                      No, not the fans fault, this is completely his fault and very easy to remedy. Fight your mandatory or vacate like he did almost 10 years ago.
                      Fans should focus on dormant fighters who most of them are just waiting for money fights. They should take a page out of Tszyu's appointment book. He doesn't wait. If he waited for Charlo he would still be waiting till now.

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