Comments Thread For: With the right opportunity and mentality, Tim Tszyu is poised to bounce back

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As Vergil Ortiz Jr. readies to take on Serhii Bohachuk for an interim junior middleweight title in a headline fight Saturday night at Mandalay Bay Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, it's impossible not to address the elephant in the room.
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[Sweet_Science_]

I'd pay to see Ortiz vs Tsyzu. There's no way it isn't a good fight. And if Charlo ever gets stripped for inactivity then this would be a unification match. Big stakes right now and the fans are winning. Hopefully the Sheik gets involved and they get paid well too. All that being said, there's a lot of ifs involved in what I just said. Both have to win their next fights.

[Corelone]

Tim has never missed a meal in his life and I don't think he has ever seen a roach. In the fight game, I dont have much faith in those sorts.

[Kesslerfan#1]

Tim has never missed a meal in his life and I don't think he has ever seen a roach. In the fight game, I dont have much faith in those sorts.

Can you imagine having a staunch father like Kostya?? His kids have obviously never missed out but they would have been regimented from a young age and it shows in their boxing talents...Russians don't **** around and not every good boxer needs a sob story

[Corelone]

Can you imagine having a staunch father like Kostya?? His kids have obviously never missed out but they would have been regimented from a young age and it shows in their boxing talents...Russians don't **** around and not every good boxer needs a sob story

By this age in his life Kostya, God bless him, had something all great fighters have. A reign of terror, but I digress. How many men are on the field with their sons, strict, disciplined, and the kid is good at something else? The question is, how many kids have Kostya as a dad, to guide your career? Tim has been the favorite in every one of his fights and wanted to defend against an old timer. When he couldn't get that, he lost to the Tower right there. Daddy tried.

[Corelone]

In my mind, the hunger and early struggle feads the ability. No daddy? That pretty much guarantees the hunger. Lots of you? Oh my. Kostya will provide, I worry for his other son getting spoon fed too.

[1Eriugenus]

'Tim has never missed a meal in his life and I don't think he has ever seen a roach. In the fight game, I dont have much faith in those sorts'.

That is total BS. I remember Barry McGuigan would talk about this a lot, like how could he compete with guys from Mexico, or Colombia or Panama who had come out of Los Barrios when he had come from a relatively comfortable background? When it came to the 'clutch' I don't think McGuigan ever failed to deliver. If you were looking for faults McGuigan could've moved his head more & he could've worked more off his (excellent) jab, neither fault had anything to do with his comparatively comfortable background. I think a lot of boxing fans obsess, to an unhealthy level, about fighters being from desperate poverty, being from the mean streets. None of Benn, Froch, Calzaghe, Groves or Joshua were from really extreme poverty or from fantastically mean streets. Despite his recent comments I don't think Moses Itauma is from the ****** from hell. I don't think there is such a place in Chatham. Obviously, boxers tend to come from poorer backgrounds compared to (say) tennis players or equestrians but you don't have to grow up like Manny Pacquaio or Matthew Saad Mohammed to be a good boxer!

[1Eriugenus]

Dennis Andries grew up cutting cane in the jungle of Guyana then moved to 'the murder mile', Hackney. Michael Gomez was, literally, homeless & living in a car. Chris Eubank was homeless in London & New York. So, yes, some boxers do come from desperate, terrifying, poverty, but it isn't everyone & it isn't a requirement.

[Corelone]

I didn't say everyone or being a requirement, but I can think of names that came from hunger everywhere Roberto Duran, Napoles, Lionel Rose. Not so much from where hunger isn't the norm. I said it motivated, not a cure all. Hunger is also pernicious, not to wished for.