Comments Thread For: Francis Ngannou: 'I'm not in a better position to be a boxing champ'

[MulaKO]

I have nothing but respect for the Predator , it takes cojones to get both in the cage and in the ring and he did both against the very best win or lose. Id like to see him back in the cage where he truly best at. Unfortunately, he might have burned bridge with Dana so probably wont be the UFC.

He’s making his debut on PFL I think it’s called
Saw an ad

[TMLT87]

He’s making his debut on PFL I think it’s called
Saw an ad

Yeah October 19th.

PFL has been around for a while but its making a big play recently, they purchased Bellator as well which was the no2 promotion. Havent merged them yet though.

Renan Fereira is his opponent. A few years ago I wouldnt have given him much of a chance but with Ngannou being 38 by the time this fight happens, and with all the **** thats happened to Ngannou this year, its become a a harder fight to call imo. Renan is 6'8 260lbs and has some power, would probably beat a few guys in the UFCs HW top 10.

[MulaKO]

Yeah October 19th.

PFL has been around for a while but its making a big play recently, they purchased Bellator as well which was the no2 promotion. Havent merged them yet though.

Renan Fereira is his opponent. A few years ago I wouldnt have given him much of a chance but with Ngannou being 38 by the time this fight happens, and with all the **** thats happened to Ngannou this year, its become a a harder fight to call imo. Renan is 6'8 260lbs and has some power, would probably beat a few guys in the UFCs HW top 10.

Thanks for the heads up and the clarification
I'm far from an mma guy , just saw an ad for the fight

[Nash out]

Its ironic because the "its not real fighting" thing is a common insult from the MMA side towards boxing.

I'm not sure which is more ridiculous, MMA fans saying a sport with a horrifiic death/injury rate where you can get punched in the face hundreds of times for up to 11 minutes longer than the maximum time of an MMA fight, isnt "real fighting". Or boxing fans saying a sport where you can legally be kicked, kneed and elbowed in the head or have your arms and legs snapped in half isnt "real fighting"

They're both very much real fighting.

Nash was joking here. Nash is like that, but I respect him for it. Nash out - His Excellency

[PRINCEKOOL]

The reason why the lost to Anthony Joshua has hit Francis Nagnnou real hard 'Is because Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game. Ngannou is not a black belt in any form of martial arts, and? From what I have experience with mixed martial arts, there are many people who participate in that sport 'Then call themselves Martial artist, but really they have no fundamental back ground in real individual Martial arts, to a high level. That is just fact'.

I have witnessed this behaviour in society, a large majority of people calling themselves Martial Artist 'Are people in general who just want to learn the raw basic's of Mixed Martial Arts, but not aspire to become a individual masters. There are very few real individual martial arts experts in those calibre of gyms'.

I have known people who participate in Martial Arts, who are way beyond black belts 'They have never hung around in mixed martial arts gyms, and they roll with a completely different crowd'. And from personal experience, their attitude towards competition is way more professional'.

Francis Ngannou in reality, was fundamentally a boxer who was taught the basics of mixed martial arts 'Ngannou mastered those basics, and that was enough for him to achieve the great feats which he did within that chosen combat sports'.

Before Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua fight took place 'I kept on stating that people need to understand? Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts, are not two entirely different sports. Francis Ngannou aspiring to invade boxing and compete against top level fighters'.

Is not the same level of challenge, as Michael Phelps deciding to challenge Usain Bolt to a 100m race 'But the narrative that certain people, in the combat sports community as a whole, and especially in boxing were trying their best to promote. Was that Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts in contrast are like Swimming and Track and Field Athletics, when this is definitively not a accurate description of the contrast between the sports'.

Francis Ngannou is not a black belt in any form of Martial Arts, Ngannou best attributes and area of his game in the sport of Mixed Martial Arts 'Is his boxing game'.

Note: On March 8th 2024 'Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game, Joshua confronted Ngannou head on in the area of his game were he is most effective and destructive. Anthony Joshua completely, obliterated and decimated Ngannou in this area. That is why the loss impacted him so severely, and I warned people before the fight? That potentially Francis Ngannou was going to suffer the worst lost of his entire combat sporting career, and that is precisely what happened'.

To conclude: I personally don't believe that Francis Ngannou is not a terrible boxer 'Ngannou clearly knows how to box, and has underrated form. Francis Ngannou has understanding of the fundamentals of boxing to a satisfactory level'.

Stylistically Anthony Joshua was a great business opportunity, but not the best match making 'Stylistically Anthony Joshua was always a extremely dangerous fight for Francis Ngannou'.

Were as in comparison, Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury 'Was actually stylistically a good match up for Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury does not have the level of power as Anthony Joshua. Joshua is also superior to Fury in terms of brute strength, and his overall athleticism'.

Anthony Joshua as a pure boxer, is fundamentally and technically more correct than Tyson Fury 'And as a fighter Joshua makes less unforced errors'.

Tyson Fury is a heavyweight fighter, yes he is a great boxer 'But a trait of his fighting style, is that he has always been prone to producing unforced errors. Fury is innately a extremely clumsy fighter, he has historically given his opponents opportunities to whack him out in all of his top level fights'.

Therefore Franics Ngannou vs Tyson Fury 'Stylistically was a less dangerous and easier fight for Francis Ngannou than Anthony Joshua'.

Francis Ngannou as a combat sports athlete, I personally think his story is inspiring 'And his efforts within combats sports, should be commended. Even in the sport of boxing, because the facts are? Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury, all the statistics of the fight show that Ngannou won the fight' etc.

[TMLT87]

The reason why the lost to Anthony Joshua has hit Francis Nagnnou real hard 'Is because Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game. Ngannou is not a black belt in any form of martial arts, and? From what I have experience with mixed martial arts, there are many people who participate in that sport 'Then call themselves Martial artist, but really they have no fundamental back ground in real individual Martial arts, to a high level. That is just fact'.

I have witnessed this behaviour in society, a large majority of people calling themselves Martial Artist 'Are people in general who just want to learn the raw basic's of Mixed Martial Arts, but not aspire to become a individual masters. There are very few real individual martial arts experts in those calibre of gyms'.

I have known people who participate in Martial Arts, who are way beyond black belts 'They have never hung around in mixed martial arts gyms, and they roll with a completely different crowd'. And from personal experience, their attitude towards competition is way more professional'.

Francis Ngannou in reality, was fundamentally a boxer who was taught the basics of mixed martial arts 'Ngannou mastered those basics, and that was enough for him to achieve the great feats which he did within that chosen combat sports'.

Before Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua fight took place 'I kept on stating that people need to understand? Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts, are not two entirely different sports. Francis Ngannou aspiring to invade boxing and compete against top level fighters'.

Is not the same level of challenge, as Michael Phelps deciding to challenge Usain Bolt to a 100m race 'But the narrative that certain people, in the combat sports community as a whole, and especially in boxing were trying their best to promote. Was that Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts in contrast are like Swimming and Track and Field Athletics, when this is definitively not a accurate description of the contrast between the sports'.

Francis Ngannou is not a black belt in any form of Martial Arts, Ngannou best attributes and area of his game in the sport of Mixed Martial Arts 'Is his boxing game'.

Note: On March 8th 2024 'Anthony Joshua beat Francis Ngannou at his own game, Joshua confronted Ngannou head on in the area of his game were he is most effective and destructive. Anthony Joshua completely, obliterated and decimated Ngannou in this area. That is why the loss impacted him so severely, and I warned people before the fight? That potentially Francis Ngannou was going to suffer the worst lost of his entire combat sporting career, and that is precisely what happened'.

To conclude: I personally don't believe that Francis Ngannou is not a terrible boxer 'Ngannou clearly knows how to box, and has underrated form. Francis Ngannou has understanding of the fundamentals of boxing to a satisfactory level'.

Stylistically Anthony Joshua was a great business opportunity, but not the best match making 'Stylistically Anthony Joshua was always a extremely dangerous fight for Francis Ngannou'.

Were as in comparison, Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury 'Was actually stylistically a good match up for Francis Ngannou. Tyson Fury does not have the level of power as Anthony Joshua. Joshua is also superior to Fury in terms of brute strength, and his overall athleticism'.

Anthony Joshua as a pure boxer, is fundamentally and technically more correct than Tyson Fury 'And as a fighter Joshua makes less unforced errors'.

Tyson Fury is a heavyweight fighter, yes he is a great boxer 'But a trait of his fighting style, is that he has always been prone to producing unforced errors. Fury is innately a extremely clumsy fighter, he has historically given his opponents opportunities to whack him out in all of his top level fights'.

Therefore Franics Ngannou vs Tyson Fury 'Stylistically was a less dangerous and easier fight for Francis Ngannou than Anthony Joshua'.

Francis Ngannou as a combat sports athlete, I personally think his story is inspiring 'And his efforts within combats sports, should be commended. Even in the sport of boxing, because the facts are? Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury, all the statistics of the fight show that Ngannou won the fight' etc.

You're putting too much stock in black belts, there are tons of them of all kinds in MMA, a well as olympic medallists. A lot of them dont live up to the hype and many of the top p4p MMA guys dont have major credentials in a "pure" combat sport. Its not the be all, end all, especially not now when MMA is a fully developed major pro sport unto itself and leagues above anything other than boxing when it comes to getting paid and being famous from fighting.

I do agree with your overall point regarding Ngannou though. In MMA he was essentially a big athletic boxer with brutal power, a good chin, and good enough takedown defence to ensure fights stayed in the range he wanted. But AJ fought him at that range and damn near ****ing killed him. I was highly impressed with how easy he made it look and how quickly he cracked what had previously looked like a good chin. Its got to have shaken Ngannous confidence massively and probably physically weakened his chin for potential future opponents as well. It was a scary loss.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Against Usyk the bloated up cruiserweight
Nah , he’ll always be a fughin fraud to me and nothing more
Sorry

So which boxers do you think are better than Fury then? Waiting to hear how Fury is really only the no. 8...

You are like the opposite of Fury supporters - just as delusional but on the other side