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  • #61
    Originally posted by ImDominicanLipz View Post
    https://www.keviniole.com/2024/08/07...erm-for-boxing

    I blame the people who constantly justify Bud fighting lesser competition bc they hate Spence/PBC. Bud is not Canelo and better fights should be demanded from Bud. Bud should be receiving as more criticism than Canelo does for not fighting Benavidez. NOBODY asked for Bud-Madrimov. What you all need to accept that the days of a belt mattering are over. Nobody cares about Madrimov being a champion and Bud winning a title after a higher weight class if it’s not against a worthy opponent. Bud thinks that promoters have an agenda against him when that’s just insecurity. The truth is he has outrageous purse demands that his stock doesn’t justify and nobody wants to lose money. Turki came along and financed a very unnecessary fight just like Top Rank used to do until Top Rank had enough. Add the ever growing piracy issue and it’s just a losing situation for any promoter to finance a Bud fight.

    The only fights that can truly generate a successful event for Bud is a Spence rematch at 154/160, Benavidez at 168, a Mayweather comeback, Tank at a catchweight, Tszyu in Australia, Charlo in Texas Boots or Ryan Garcia. Everything else will be a flop, because Bud just isn’t a star. Unfortunately for him he doesn’t live in the era that had so many fighters who were draws.

    Umm, “NO”, LEGACY fights matter even if “casuals” dont agree. He went for ANOTHER belt in ANOTHER weight class. He won the belt but it was his hardest fight in 7-10 years. I suggest he get all the belts at 154 but i digress, he’s OLD now. He should try and get another belt at 160, then hit the Canelo lottery and cash in. He wont beat Canelo but who cares. Hes getting paid.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

      He has a lil more than 10 Ws
      I agree it’s a bit thin.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ReggieKray View Post

        Crawford is an old man already. He can fight anyone of those dudes for the same small purse he has been fighting for or convince Turki to stop being a jackass and make the fight with Canelo so Crawford can retire. He is not gonna go for undisputed at 154, he doesn't have that much time left at one fight per year.

        But no, Crawford is a moron. Instead of thinking things through and realizing he doesn't have many big money opportunities left he comes out today and talks **** about Canelo. Crawford has been fking himself his entire career and the fool still hasn't learned.. It's sad, but oh well... He had Canelo in his finger tips and dumbass Turki and himself ****ed it up... They literally couldn't wait 40 days to talk to Canelo..
        Crawford is not ancient, and I'm pretty sure he's capable of fighting twice a year. The amount of money he's demanding seems to be the issue. The 154lb division is only 2-3 fights away from Undisputed. If Crawford/Canelo goes up in smoke, I couldn't care less. I wasn't interested in that fight before or after last Saturday.


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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sheikh View Post
          Actually it's excellent pay-per-view numbers are declining. If pay per view numbers continue to decline the promoters will have no choice but to only put the very best on pay-per-view. Or it might even get rid of pay-per-view all together. The economics of the sport are changing. No one wants to pay pay-per-view for a bogus fight that should be on TV
          ....or match-ups simply won't happen, like before the Saudis got involved. I don't think PPV is going away, doesn't matter how bad they keep doing.

          Originally posted by elfag View Post
          this is the negative to these saudi fights.

          They dont care if they loose money and the thing is all the other promoters have to make money. but the saudis cannot promote EVERY fight. so then those that dont win the saudi lottery they stand on the sidelines waiting for their big money shot and other fights wont get made.

          Also if turki ever looses interest in boxing and moves on to some other sport, everyone is spoiled to these high pay days they wont want to fight each other anymore and keep pricing themselves out.
          ​Fighters were chronically pricing themselves out before Turki, so Boxing would be back to regularly scheduled programming.

          Last edited by kiaba360; 08-09-2024, 08:46 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

            Crawford is not ancient, and I'm pretty sure he's capable of fighting twice a year. The amount of money he's demanding seems to be the issue. The 154lb division is only 2-3 fights away from Undisputed. If Crawford/Canelo goes up in smoke, I couldn't care less. I wasn't interested in that fight before or after last Saturday.

            The issue though is he wants to make the most money for his remaining fights and years left in his career. He won't do that fighting the relatively unknown and arguably weak remaining championships at 154.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ReggieKray View Post

              The issue though is he wants to make the most money for his remaining fights and years left in his career. He won't do that fighting the relatively unknown and arguably weak remaining championships at 154.
              Well, he'll have to make a choice then. Stay at 154 and make good money, or chase Canelo and make great money. Hopefully he'll make up his mind soon and stop whining. I think 154 is the safer choice. TC has Turki's support, and Turki appears to have PBC/GBP/TR's support.


              Last edited by kiaba360; 08-09-2024, 11:05 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

                Well, he'll have to make a choice then. Stay at 154 and make good money, or chase Canelo and make great money. Hopefully he'll make up his mind soon and stop whining. I think 154 is the safer choice. TC has Turki's support, and Turki appears to have PBC/GBP/TR's support.

                Lmfao
                Not if you ask one of the promotional fiends about PBC being associated to Turki

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                  Lmfao
                  Not if you ask one of the promotional fiends about PBC being associated to Turki
                  PBC appears to need all of the help it can get.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

                    PBC appears to need all of the help it can get.
                    I definitely agree unless they are hiding more than just Uncle Al lol

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
                      Garcia and Haney were crying about not getting paid by GBP, which Oscar vehemently denied on video. They were referring to the PPV upsides they expected to be massive. Seems most people watched it for free. At least not many fans were that curious about their numbers, unlike some folks who still believe in huge PPV numbers.
                      Bottom line is people need to stop asking about PPV numbers. None of them can be confirmed. They're all made up. Some even suggested Tank/Martin did better than the Garcia/Haney fight. Something like 200K for the Haney/Garcia fight and 300-350K for the Martin/Tank fight, according to Fat Dan. How in hell could that happen? That's why people need to do simple math and use common sense.... This article itself attributes it to piracy, but then dismantles it by blaming it's because it's Bud in the main card. He should be blaming his fellow writers for exaggerating previous numbers. They're all fake. There is a certain group that is biased towards a particular platform. MR, TR, GBP, DAZN are all fair game to this group.

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