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  • Smash
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    #91
    Originally posted by pnut901


    Everyone is born with different abilities and advantages for sports. I guess that the fairest thing would be to pick an amount of testosterone that's acceptable for a female athlete to have and disqualify anyone that's over , for any reason. Or disqualify anyone born with that particular condition. At the end of the day , everyone can't do everything. If you're born without legs , you can't run....wait , wrong choice. I don't remember if the guy who killed his girlfriend was allowed to run or not. I don't think that he should have been. Anyway , it's better to exclude a tiny percentage of athletes than to give them an insurmountable advantage, which these two don't seem to have.
    Take Caster Semenya as an example

    "Semenya has said that she was born with a vagina and internal undescended testes, but that she has no uterus or fallopian tubes and does not menstruate.[11][23][24] Her internal testes produce natural testosterone levels in the typical male range.[11][25] Semenya has rejected the label of "intersex", calling herself "a different kind of woman."​

    Yes shes a women on her birth cert and passport but she is different to the women she is competing against & if she trains right eats right and has talent it may be fair to say that women cant compete with her, is this fair? i would say not and im sure the 3 ladies who came 4 5 & 6 in that rio final to the 3 high testos ladies might agree with that

    as for the 2 current boxers they are an unknown quantity at the moment and unknowns make people jumpy and jump to conclusions etc, asking for clarity on whether they may have DSD like caster does and was tested for is not a bad thing, clarity is always good and yes u might offend the ladies and their countries but the end product is correct, fairness and integrity of the sport, usually there is no smoke with fire and there is a lot of chatter about these boxers just like there was about caster and others and i think all the chatter was proven correct in the end

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    • Smash
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      #92
      Originally posted by ValarMargulis
      9 KO's in 50 fights is hardly an advantage.
      the reason shes on the radar now is that she has improved a lot in the last few years and she is much stronger looking, just because u might have high levels of 'stuff' doesnt make u auto the winner, u have to train right eat etc to make it work

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      • Smash
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        #93
        Originally posted by pollywog
        Sounds like some would rather she fight men and get the shït beaten out of her.

        What does that say about you ?
        she may be an inbetweener

        a bit more than a woman but not quite a man

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        • Smash
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          #94
          i think the cosmos might be having a laugh at us sometimes

          imane khelif
          caster semenya

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          • Basco
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            #95
            Originally posted by Smash

            the reason shes on the radar now is that she has improved a lot in the last few years and she is much stronger looking, just because u might have high levels of 'stuff' doesnt make u auto the winner, u have to train right eat etc to make it work
            Then let everybody do Peds since it doesn't guarantee a win. Now, how much sense does that statement makes?

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            • Smash
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              #96
              Originally posted by Basco

              Then let everybody do Peds since it doesn't guarantee a win. Now, how much sense does that statement makes?
              no idea what u are on about, i didnt make that statement

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              • trippleupper
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                #97
                Originally posted by jwalkr
                There’s no “finer details” to having XY chromosomes. It means you are a male. And the IOC’s qualification is whatever is on your passport. In the U.S., at least, you can change your gender with no qualifying test or evidence.
                Is Swyer Syndrome the only exception?

                Does she have Swyer Syndrome?

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                • trippleupper
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by ValarMargulis
                  9 KO's in 50 fights is hardly an advantage.
                  As an amateur it is.
                  Look at the records of high level amateur boxers -- KO percentages are low.

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                  • Smash
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                    #99
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                    shes done it, gold, ez mode activated

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                    • pollywog
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Smash
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                      shes done it, gold, ez mode activated
                      Well played dear Lady, well played!

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