Comments Thread For: Imane Khelif and the desperate need for governance

[mattconan]

“In other words, this organization released results we don’t like bc it conflicts with our dogmatic view on gender, so let’s attack and discredit them”

boxingscene you are embarrassing yourself

[Poopdick]

This is all about a woman born with heightened testosterone, she is who she is. She didn't take PEDs, she isn't a trans person, she just exists and chose to be a fighter.

I don't know where the line should be drawn for the advantages someone is born with, because we watch pro athletes like that all the time.

Lots of misinformation and disinformation around this story online and lots of L takes on it too.

lol she the future GWOAT

[gooderz84]

Neither appealed their DQs from the IBA as the results of any tests would have then been made public. Something I figure will prove how big of an advantage they hold over the competition. That being said... Usain Bolt held a significant advantage over any other sprinter in his era due to his size and muscle structure. Freakish in the world of sprinting where people his size are not supposed to run that fast. Granted, he wasn't inflicting physical damage on his opponents.

[Blackstarr]

Neither appealed their DQs from the IBA as the results of any tests would have then been made public. Something I figure will prove how big of an advantage they hold over the competition. That being said... Usain Bolt held a significant advantage over any other sprinter in his era due to his size and muscle structure. Freakish in the world of sprinting where people his size are not supposed to run that fast. Granted, he wasn't inflicting physical damage on his opponents.

They didn’t appeal because such action can cost tens of thousands..if you’re from a small country or don’t have the financial backing from somewhere, there’s very little you can do.

[Blackstarr]

He appears to be saying that her "birth-recognised gender" is not her actual gender, not that her actual gender should be changed.

Not her actual gender based on what? She allegedly has some sort of condition that caused her to produce too much testosterone and look like a man? Outwardly looking like a female at birth ain’t enough anymore, like it always has been?

Is he gonna allow that same line of thinking for all those effeminate low-testosterone men out there claiming they’re trapped in the wrong body?

I stand by what I said..he’s a hating hypocrite that doesn’t make any sense.

[jwalkr]

There’s no “finer details” to having XY chromosomes. It means you are a male. And the IOC’s qualification is whatever is on your passport. In the U.S., at least, you can change your gender with no qualifying test or evidence.

[Knuckle sandwich]

Feeling like a women doesn't make you female, coming from a single parent family, mother and older sister this travesty of justice is deeply offensive.

[Gary Coleman]

When in doubt, leave them out. Regardless of everything that this article says, if there are any doubts whatsoever to one's gender, it's in the best interest to not let that athlete compete, especially in boxing. We're talking about punching each other in the face, not bowling.

Who's in doubt, aside from the outsiders looking in?

Get over your feelings and deal in reality. She's a woman. Born a woman.

[Gary Coleman]

This isn't a question of gender.
Imane was born as a little girl.
The problem is her physical advantages.
This is a similar case to runner Caster Semenya.
Some women are born with XY chromosomes
or naturally more testosterone.
And no one knows what to do when these women compete against women without these natural advantages.
It sucks, because it's like we're saying they aren't women,
but those natural advantages still have to be regulated.

Regulated how? This isn't some widespread phenomenon, just a few outliers.

What would you have suggested committees do about Michael Phelps natural advantages?

[factsarenice]

Indeed what many people didn't do is taking a look in depth at Carini's Instagram page, which reveals her as a sort of wannabe model, with sèxy poses, bikini shots etc. She was probably afraid of getting hit too much in the face and get disfigured.

I read on X that Carnini and Shock G, Humpty Hump are never in the same room at the same time for a reason and Khelif is actually Ryan Garcia. Just sayn it's kinda curious....no?