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  • #21
    Originally posted by M312 View Post

    Too many read too much into this win.

    He caught AJ with a counter, because AJ thought Ruiz was done following the KD and opened up wildly to finish him (too early).

    Just an error from AJ, costly at heavyweight.
    But truth is if AJ was more patient, he was on the way to an easy win.

    Other than that punch, Ruiz hasn't actually shown much.
    Guy, he beat him. And it was fair and square, no funny business, weird refs, or debate. Call it what you want, but Ruiz had/has fast hands and he had that killer instinct to finish AJ when the opp arose.

    I don't understand what more you could ask from him in that fight. Buster Douglas beat Tyson too, and it was legit. This is boxing, and it's what happens when dudes watch power, speed, skill, and strategy.

    It was a great win and a very memorable moment in boxing history for me.

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    • #22
      turki doesnt need to pay 2 fatties one looks like a barrel of beer & the other fattie the biggest ped cheat in the history of the sport whos pretty hopeless without his peds and u are giving them paydays, mind boggles

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      • #23
        Lol, damn I've said it once, I will say it 100xs. Fat people are discriminated the most. I don't care what nationality, ethnicity, gender, or orientation, we all make fun of fat people. Even chubby people make fun of fatter people. I don't hang around flamers but I'm sure they make fun of fat flamers.

        I knew a family of fat ass Chicanos, that would make fun of each other for being fat. They'd fat shame each other while eating. I remember they made fun of their fat lil cousin while he ate a double cheeseburger. His lil fat ass ate it all still while crying lol! There was only 1 person skinny in their family and he was in the Army, when he got out he gained weight and his whole fat ass family let him know... lol

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        • #24
          Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
          In the era of body positivity these guys have no shame. They are not embarassed about their weight at all. People pay lots of money to see them fight and they are watched by hundreds of thousands of people, yet they don't even try to come in at their best fighting weight. It's a slap in the face to everyone who watches boxing.

          Any normal person who would get a big payday would try their ass of to be in the best possible shape because they are being seen and judged by thousands, but they just DGAF.

          You don't have to be an Adonis with a six-pack. They owe to the fans to be ready to rock all 12 rounds like they did in the old days
          It is most of the heavyweight division these days... Even guys like Bakole, would not have the accolades fighting in a strong division where fighters could move. Ask yourself why a young fighter like jared Anderson was not instructed how to fight on the toes, against Bakole? the division is so weak and guys come in to throw shots and do little else. The sad thing is, Ruiz looked good for a bit, he has the ability to move smartly but cannot be bothered to come in at a fighting weight.
          likes this.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

            Guy, he beat him. And it was fair and square, no funny business, weird refs, or debate. Call it what you want, but Ruiz had/has fast hands and he had that killer instinct to finish AJ when the opp arose.

            I don't understand what more you could ask from him in that fight. Buster Douglas beat Tyson too, and it was legit. This is boxing, and it's what happens when dudes watch power, speed, skill, and strategy.

            It was a great win and a very memorable moment in boxing history for me.
            I don't deny that AJ had fast hands in that fight which caught AJ off guard, but I also can't deny see AJ was trying to go in for the kill himself and got caught. Perhaps a bit too reckless but he also underestimated Ruiz fast hands in that moment.

            AJ was clearly the superior fighter when they rematched, Ruiz decided to come in like a tub of lard and got easily outboxed by AJ. It was a rather uneventful match, but AJ had to prove he could rebound from his KO loss and that he truly was superior to Ruiz if he didn't allow himself to get reckless at any point during the match.

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            • #26
              Ruiz at least, looked to be in the best shape of his life vs Miller which isn't saying much. That's probably the more frightening aspect once he's done with boxing. Unless he maintains a healthy lifestyle for the rest of his life, I can see him absolutely ballooning once the training is out of his life and the food continues to get shoveled into his mouth. He's going to look like he ate current Prince Naseem Hamed.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

                Guy, he beat him. And it was fair and square, no funny business, weird refs, or debate. Call it what you want, but Ruiz had/has fast hands and he had that killer instinct to finish AJ when the opp arose.

                I don't understand what more you could ask from him in that fight. Buster Douglas beat Tyson too, and it was legit. This is boxing, and it's what happens when dudes watch power, speed, skill, and strategy.

                It was a great win and a very memorable moment in boxing history for me.
                I don't knock or doubt the victory. Clean and clear. That's boxing. Good on Ruiz.

                BUT it was more to do with AJ getting carried away after he knocked Ruiz down. He thought it was over, got reckless and caught with a counter. Ruiz is one tough MF.

                If AJ was more patient, he would've won easily, there really isnt much doubt. Just have to watch the first fight until AJ went for the finish early and the second fight too.

                Only argument is that AJ simply can't resist going reckless. At that point ij his career, likely not.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by M312 View Post

                  I don't knock or doubt the victory. Clean and clear. That's boxing. Good on Ruiz.

                  BUT it was more to do with AJ getting carried away after he knocked Ruiz down. He thought it was over, got reckless and caught with a counter. Ruiz is one tough MF.

                  If AJ was more patient, he would've won easily, there really isnt much doubt. Just have to watch the first fight until AJ went for the finish early and the second fight too.

                  Only argument is that AJ simply can't resist going reckless. At that point ij his career, likely not.
                  Ahhh, further evidence of the dumbass at work

                  If AJ was more patient, Andy would have still outboxed and knocked him out

                  Can't resist going reckless??? LOL. You can't even read words, much less body language. AJ has *****e boxing ability, was carefully matched, and is bigger than most of the people he fights so he imposes his size. Too bad size means zilch when your chin is weak and you don't know how to adjust. I don't expect you to know that though. Or anything, for that matter actually

                  Ruiz beat AJ so bad that the only thing he could do was use the only advantage to keep him COMPLETELY and utterly safe: his reach. And that's how he fights now. To hide his flaws

                  He's getting KO'd by Dubois, btw. Thought you should know so you can bet all your money on AJ, then hate yourself when I'm right

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                  • #29
                    These two have eating disorders. As fat as they are now, imagine if they weren't boxers! They'd both be on "my 600lb life".

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                    • #30
                      andy wanted to be a baseball player when he was a kid but he could never get to first base quick enough

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