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  • #91
    Originally posted by garfios View Post

    Yes he was, the first thing he said when he arrived at 168 was " I won't fight mexicans", which in Spanish is, "no voy a pelear con benavidez".
    And? I prefer cheese on my burger. You make it seem like that's an excuse to run scared lol

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    • #92
      Originally posted by El Más Loco View Post

      Your arguments are nonsensical, and ones you are making up in your own head. In 2019, I would have favored GGG to beat Benavidez just like I would have favored Canelo to beat Benavidez....that means nothing because they still would have been attractive fights. Even up to last year I favored Canelo to beat Benavidez, I am only now thinking otherwise because of how Canelo is avoiding the fight.

      If Benavidez hasn't displayed anything in the ring then what has Fielding, Yildrim, Chavez Jr (a fight us in Mexico wanted in 2009 not in 2017 lmao), Ryder, Munguia, or Berlanga display?

      Benavidez got dropped to Gavril in the 11th round because he got sloppy and dropped his hands, it was a flash knock down. Then rematched Gavril and beat him from pilar to post. Canelo was almost KO'd at that same age by the unknown Cotto brother...s h i t happens.
      Benavidez hasn't risen in popularity and is still Mexican/high risk no reward. Nothing's changed lol

      Fielding - Canelo's first (paper) title at 175, Yildrim - mando, Chavez - tune up (for GGG), Ryder - mando (already beat Smith before Canelo so a better fighter than record shows), Munguia - payday, Berlanga - payday

      The only version of Canelo Benavidez can beat is the one in 2-3 years when his legs start to go. Other than that, this is all clout chasing

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      • #93
        Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

        Benavidez hasn't risen in popularity and is still Mexican/high risk no reward. Nothing's changed lol

        Fielding - Canelo's first (paper) title at 175, Yildrim - mando, Chavez - tune up (for GGG), Ryder - mando (already beat Smith before Canelo so a better fighter than record shows), Munguia - payday, Berlanga - payday

        The only version of Canelo Benavidez can beat is the one in 2-3 years when his legs start to go. Other than that, this is all clout chasing
        Lol at least thanks for admitting the type of fan you are. You accept paper champions, worthless mandos, tune ups, and "paydays" where you spend but receive nothing in return OVER a fight the general HARDCORE AND CASUAL fans want to see. No wonder boxing has been dying.
        garfios garfios likes this.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by El Más Loco View Post

          LOL Saunders?! Beating a shot Groves and Lemieux makes him an excellent fighter? Saunders will never see the Hall of Fame.

          But Benavidez isn't worth it despite have Lemieux on his resume too?

          It's one thing to be a Canelo fan but you're not a fan....you're something beyond that.
          You're sleeping on Saunders. Phenomenal on the domestic level and better than his record shows on the world stage. He's handed Ryder and Eubank Jr. their first Ls, never fought Groves, beaten Andy Lee, washed Lemieux (who gave GGG a good test), etc.

          Lemieux moved up and got worn down by the naturally bigger man. Not the same as when he fought Golovkin or Saunders

          I thought he was elusive, sharp, and scoring some very nice shots before Canelo caught him. It's rare you see someone outbox Canelo

          I'm a fan because I know what I'm watching. You probably still bad-mouth Mayweather over the cherries and have no idea the sort of fight tactics the best boxers today employ because of him. But it's like that old saying, if you know you know

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          • #95
            Originally posted by El Más Loco View Post

            Lol at least thanks for admitting the type of fan you are. You accept paper champions, worthless mandos, tune ups, and "paydays" where you spend but receive nothing in return OVER a fight the general HARDCORE AND CASUAL fans want to see. No wonder boxing has been dying.
            If every boxer went life and death every single time they fought, they would have very short careers. He's already proven himself early on and this is just where he is at right now. That's not unique to him, that's what all boxers strive for: prove themselves to be a commodity so they can call the shots. This is not new

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            • #96
              Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

              And? I prefer cheese on my burger. You make it seem like that's an excuse to run scared lol
              Because it was and the proof is on the pudding. The he fought him? Did he refuse to fight him, publicly?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

                You're sleeping on Saunders. Phenomenal on the domestic level and better than his record shows on the world stage. He's handed Ryder and Eubank Jr. their first Ls, never fought Groves, beaten Andy Lee, washed Lemieux (who gave GGG a good test), etc.
                lol Saunders. Andrade and Plant would dominate him. Ok boxing skills but physically mediocre and lazy. BJS was a perfect soft UK Canelo meal.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

                  Benavidez hasn't risen in popularity and is still Mexican/high risk no reward. Nothing's changed lol

                  Fielding - Canelo's first (paper) title at 175, Yildrim - mando, Chavez - tune up (for GGG), Ryder - mando (already beat Smith before Canelo so a better fighter than record shows), Munguia - payday, Berlanga - payday

                  The only version of Canelo Benavidez can beat is the one in 2-3 years when his legs start to go. Other than that, this is all clout chasing
                  Still, he doesn't want to fight him.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

                    It wasn't peak Golovkin, but still close enough to his prime. It's not like Golovkin had been in any wars by that point. If he wasn't already bigger and stronger than Canelo at the time, it would mean more.

                    The PED thing is hard to comment on. Most if not all of the top guys take supplements, and every year they update the list on what's banned and what's fair game. Neugenix, an over-the-counter test boost, was fine for the longest then it caused you to pop and blah blah so I don't know
                    Ggg was past his prime and still won the first fight hands down.

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                    • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

                      lol Saunders. Andrade and Plant would dominate him. Ok boxing skills but physically mediocre and lazy. BJS was a perfect soft UK Canelo meal.
                      Saunders, like Fury, fought to the level of his competition and bloated up between fights. He's one of those fighters that were fine doing just enough to win, but you can tell if he really took boxing more serious, his career would reflect that. The technical match-up between him and Andrade would've been exciting to witness. Plant's Philly shell wouldn't work well at all against the awkward southpaw though

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