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  • #41
    Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
    I have it on good authority that he is packing some serious glass, supposedly he's been put over quite a few times in sparring during exchanges so he fights a cautious, low risk style which is the effective and sensible thing to do to be honest.
    Idk how true this is, but I'm su****ious about his chin also.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
      You'd have to pay me to watch boring, scary ass, safety first Shakira Stinkerson.
      He couldn't even knock a girl out in a parking lot.

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      • #43
        High risk low reward.

        Gotta make him fight

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post

          Ward wasn't anywhere near as boring as Shakur
          Shakur is more negative but Ward’s fights were messier.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by brettWall View Post
            Arum protected him too much and invested a lot of money on him. Even Berchelt never got to test that investment.

            And even before the talk of Oscar Valdez was in the air, the Bobfather was proposing preliminary fights like staging Valdez vs Navarette winner vs the winner of Stevenson vs Berchelt, who Valdez already KO'd. See how protective the Bobfather was to him? Valdez was getting the harder fight in the interim. It never happened. I don't know the reason.
            Yeah, I remember that. Fact that Bob didn't want to do the Stevenson vs Valdez right away was very telling.

            Arum Eyes Valdez-Navarrete, Stevenson-Berchelt - Winners Fight Each Other
            https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-eye...-other--161657

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            • #46
              Originally posted by bballchump11 View Post

              Idk how true this is, but I'm su****ious about his chin also.
              why Shakur not iron chin hero?

              Bivol is another one. We know his chin is at least average but is it iron

              maybe the best defense guys get underrated in chin because they’re rarely tested. We saw this with Floyd. Who turned out to be iron chin hero

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              • #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                True. One way to look at it. The other way is he is an extremely talented guy that should be in with other talents.

                Responding to your post isn’t getting defensive. I am asking his promoter do the job for him as he has done for others he promotes.

                He Sure did hurt Valdez and was entertaining. Again matchmaking. Put him in with Loma. He likely gets an accumulation KO.

                Entertainment can be manufactured by the promoter. That was my point about the guy Davis fought last night.

                Switch the opponents up for Davis and Shakur and we’d have had 2 straight hours of entertainment rather than a sh-tshow and a sleep inducer.
                Lol at KOing Loma. You lost me there.

                Lol at blaming promoters for not having a punch and carrying B/C level dudes to 12 rounds..

                Tank fought the same type of guys he's fighting but he putting them out and that's why he's where he's at. So did Ryan.. His own people was booing and walked out on him lol.

                Shakur is the American Rigondeaux. Skilled defensive boxer but ZERO entertainment value.
                Last edited by johncods; 07-07-2024, 10:15 PM.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post
                  Didn’t catch the fight. Was it that bad?
                  His own people walked out before the fight was over and was booing him.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by johncods View Post

                    His own people walked out before the fight was over and was booing him.
                    Some fights simply do not have the it factor

                    I like every Mayweather fight except for Baldomir

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post

                      Man, stop with the Floyd comparison. Even an older version of Floyd was more exciting than Shakur. Some of you guys let y’all personal hatred get in the way of how you see certain boxers. Yes, Floyd wasn’t highly entertaining offensively, but what really separated him was his unique ability to effortlessly and effectively transition from offense to defense and vice versa, the ability to create openings by baiting his opponent to do exactly what he wanted them to do and then capitalized by countering them. Shakur doesn’t have that, he’s either too defensively minded, or he’s very basic with his offense with no creativity, he can’t really transition as smoothly and effortlessly as Floyd did. Put some ****ing resPEK on Floyd’s name!
                      They act like Mayweather didn’t build his fanbase by going 27-0 with 21 KO’s at 130lbs. That’s where his hardcore fanbase was built. And still to this day, new fans can see Mayweather’s 130-140lb fights and realize he was a beast. He was nowhere near like Shakur is now.

                      On top of that, Mayweather came through big in a lot of his fights, offensively. While not getting hit, he showed both sides for a long time. He was a very balanced fighter, the perfect fighter. That’s where his old fans come from.

                      Of course when you fight bigger opponents and don’t kill yourself to make weight like everyone else, your power will hit different. But Shakur hasn’t built that fanbase up like Mayweather did. He was a very exciting fighter to watch. And regardless of weight, look at his Hatton, Mosley, Ortiz, Judah, and Cotto fights. He showed a lot of aggressive even at 147-154.

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