Pacquiao-Mayweather Unlikely For 2010, Says Arum

[GRUSTLER]

In my opinion, Mayweather wants both Pacquiao and Shane. The idea isn't to show it. Another thing people need to understand is...Lets say Cotto vs. Pacquiao is a VERY competitive fight, there could be a rematch. Arum is taking 27% of Pacquiao's and Cotto's check, that's a whopping 54%. So don't be surprised with Arum making Cotto vs. Pacquiao 2.

Wish Mosley had the same business strategy.

[Boss Don]

Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are ducking Floyd Mayweather. They thought that after the two year layoff Floyd wasn't going to be the same fighter. They thought he was not draw and his PPV numbers would fail. But guess what they were all wrong Floyd came back and easily dominated JMM for 12 rounds who in two fights with Pacquiao won more rounds than he loss. He did 1 million PPV buys even though he was going head to head with UFC 103. Floyd showed why he is who he is and why he demands what he demands.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Wish Mosley had the same business strategy.

Thing is, I want to see Juanma vs. Elio Rojas but people are demandng Juanma vs. Caballero. I want to see B-Hop vs. Dawson but people are now demanding RJJ vs. B-Hop (Which is long overdue). I want to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao AND people are demanding that, very little demand for Mayweather to face Shane. Shane should continue to prove that he is the best WW; then the Mayweather fight will come. Mayweather did say he is looking to stay in the sport and fight twice a year. Shane is pretty much gonna be in the mix, instead of waiting he should be fighting.

[The Gambler1981]

This is all posturing from both sides, both sides have pretty much let it be known they will say screw it if the deal is not right for them. The fact remains whatever the split is their piece of the pie will be much larger then what they can get elsewhere.

Arum does need to be careful though because Manny can leave him and cut him out all together is he messes for to long, so time is on Floyd's side (if they both can keep winning and fighting).

Aslong as they both keep winning it will happean but I would not hold my breath on it happeaning soon.

[edgarg]

In my opinion, Mayweather wants both Pacquiao and Shane. The idea isn't to show it. Another thing people need to understand is...Lets say Cotto vs. Pacquiao is a VERY competitive fight, there could be a rematch. Arum is taking 27% of Pacquiao's and Cotto's check, that's a whopping 54%. So don't be surprised with Arum making Cotto vs. Pacquiao 2.

27% from each :"cheque" is still 27% of the total. Financial matters in these fights are always secret, so how do you guys know what Arum is REALLY getting.

Arum is mainly responsible for BOTH fighters reaching the moneyed status that they have. Just like he "made" Oscar and Fishmouth. But for Arum, their progressions would have been very different.

I don't know why he is being so "bad-mouthed"??

[SugarRayRealist]

Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are ducking Floyd Mayweather. They thought that after the two year layoff Floyd wasn't going to be the same fighter. They thought he was not draw and his PPV numbers would fail. But guess what they were all wrong Floyd came back and easily dominated JMM for 12 rounds who in two fights with Pacquiao won more rounds than he loss. He did 1 million PPV buys even though he was going head to head with UFC 103. Floyd showed why he is who he is and why he demands what he demands.

A big Co-sign king22, I have the same thoughts as you do. They didn't expect Mayweather to dominate the fighter that gave Manny hell; after being away for 2 years. Floyd thoroughly dominated Marquez whereas Manny struggeled with him in two fights. I hate Bob Arum with a passion. I'm also losing respect for Freddie Roach as a trainer. Freddie is really acting desparate to me. I thought Manny was a warrior; but in his biggest fights he is acting more like a reluctant gladiator. Jake Lamotta, Rocky Graziano and all the other real warriors just fought for the title and pride of being a winner!!! **** Bob because Floyd still have Shane Or Cotto or Clottey or Williams or whoever...
So just retire Manny because your promoter (Bob Arum) and trainer (Freddie Roach) just don't have the faith in you against Mayweather so they are pricing you out!!!!!!!

[M.I Truth ?]

Arum (and even some people on this board) make it seem like Mayweather is crazy for thinking he should get the bigger split. I think its more than safe to say if Manny had the same type numbers Floyd has now there would be no question that Pac gets lionshare. DLT made many valid aguements in his original post but everybody only jumped on the lifestyle part. What about the rest? The rest was spot on. Also the idea that Floyd is so difficult to negotiate with is strange to me. I dont recall too many snags in any of his mega fights and they were all made fairly quickly. Thats all.

[FeFist]

So basically Arum is plotting the reasons that Manny doesn't have to fight Floyd. Of course when this is all said and done people will say that Floyd ducked Arum.

It should be noted that Floyd hasn't actually said much on the issue. Arum and Roach have both come out and said why the fight won't have for a no. of BS reasons. I'd laugh if Floyd was like 40% of the share is cool with me just to see what BS they would come up with then.

[FLY TY]

I think 50/50 is good consideration what each brings to the table
BUT the fact that Floyd has out sold Manny with the same 3 opponents,
I think it's not unreasonable for Floyd to ask for a more bigger %.
Arum greed will make this fight happen.

floyd could do 50/50 if he wants to be nice.....but oscar never bended for other fighters during negotiations, and he saw nothing wrong with taking 65-70% of the purses for his fights.....

numbers don't lie, and floyd has outsold pac, so he has the right to demand a bigger cut....if the fight doesn't happen, it'll be because arum refuses to do what's right, and he may also not be interesting in seeing his last cash cow defeated.

all in all, i think arum is posturing also, if pac tells him to make the fight, the fight will be made. it's not arum's decision to "not" negotiate, b/c the negotiations will be tough.

[elgaringo]

seems like it is....but lets just wait for pa-cotto numbers....

I agree that should be a basis for who gets what % wise!!!