Teofimo has stagnated. Bam keeps getting better.

[ShoulderRoll]

Against Jamaine Ortiz the excuse for not impressing was that the opponent didn’t want to engage and that Teo had to chase him around the ring. But yesterday he had a guy that came straight forward at him all night and he STILL failed to look impressive. I don’t know if he needs to bring back Joey Gamache or just switch to a new trainer altogether or if his personal life is still negatively affecting him or what. But to me he has stopped growing and his power isn’t all that at 140 lbs.

Bam on the other hand? What is there to say, the guy just continues to amaze against high level opposition and just dominates them. He is only 24 but already on his way to a Hall of Fame career and possibly all-time great status. If he stays disciplined and doesn’t let the trappings of success lead him into bad lifestyle habits imagine where he will be when he is 28? He already has a better resume than Tank Davis imo.

[kiaba360]

I shared similar sentiments in the main thread. Teofimo really needs to think about expanding his training team, or outright replacing his father. As tough as Claggett might be, he's not an elite boxer and the style match-up clearly favored Teofimo. Both Bam and Teofimo were trying to "swim without getting wet" against their respective opponents, staying within punching range and making subtle offensive/defensive changes. Bam fought the better opponent, got hit less (even-though he did get knocked down), and demonstrated more versatility. Teofimo is supposed to be an elite counter-puncher, but it was Bam who delivered the perfect liver shot to put Estrada down. Claggett provided ample opportunities to land the kill-shot, and Teo simply couldn't deliver. Teofimo is already proven, but he's simply not as great as he's built himself up to be. He is far from being the best fighter in the world. Even after the likes of Crawford/Usyk/Canelo retire, he still may not reach the peak of the mountain.

[ShoulderRoll]

I shared similar sentiments in the main thread. Teofimo really needs to think about expanding his training team, or outright replacing his father. As tough as Claggett might be, he's not an elite boxer and the style match-up clearly favored Teofimo. Both Bam and Teofimo were trying to "swim without getting wet" against their respective opponents, staying within punching range and making subtle offensive/defensive changes. Bam fought the better opponent, got hit less (even-though he did get knocked down), and demonstrated more versatility. Teofimo is supposed to be an elite counter-puncher, but it was Bam who delivered the perfect liver shot to put Estrada down. Claggett provided ample opportunities to land the kill-shot, and Teo simply couldn't deliver. Teofimo is already proven, but he's simply not as great as he's built himself up to be. He is far from being the best fighter in the world. Even after the likes of Crawford/Usyk/Canelo retire, he still may not reach the peak of the mountain.

Teofimo keeps name dropping Terence Crawford as a potential opponent but TC’s next fight is at junior middleweight and he is likely never going back to 147.

If Teo can’t crack at 140 lbs does he really think he has anything for TC at 154 lbs?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Everybody has a better resume than Tank, lol.

Bam has a great resume already.

[paulf]

The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.

Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.

Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.

[Haka]

Against Jamaine Ortiz the excuse for not impressing was that the opponent didn’t want to engage and that Teo had to chase him around the ring. But yesterday he had a guy that came straight forward at him all night and he STILL failed to look impressive. I don’t know if he needs to bring back Joey Gamache or just switch to a new trainer altogether or if his personal life is still negatively affecting him or what. But to me he has stopped growing and his power isn’t all that at 140 lbs.

Bam on the other hand? What is there to say, the guy just continues to amaze against high level opposition and just dominates them. He is only 24 but already on his way to a Hall of Fame career and possibly all-time great status. If he stays disciplined and doesn’t let the trappings of success lead him into bad lifestyle habits imagine where he will be when he is 28? He already has a better resume than Tank Davis imo.

If Teo wants those 140 titles to mean something he has to get past Catterall first.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Bam is a legit p4p material, Lopez isn`t really. Not the same level. Lopez looks ordinary fighting the guys of his size.

[Haka]

The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.

Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.

Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.

No these fighters are just not good enough in the first place and can only get their way with exorbitant weight cuts.

[kiaba360]

The jump from 135 to 140/147 is one of the hardest jumps in boxing.

Teo was a wrecking machine at 135, but can't crack an egg at 140.

Same thing happened to Adrian Broner and Brandon Rios.

...but it didn't happen to Terrence Crawford, the person whom Teofimo keeps name-dropping. Teo would probably say that he's on TC's level, and that he's vastly superior to the likes of Broner/Rios. Teo is just not as great as he thinks. Maybe Teo is more reliant on physical attributes than skills.

[Mammoth]

Teo is a really good athlete but only an ok fighter.