Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Rodriguez-Estrada, Winning as the Underdog, PEDs and De La Hoya as a GUN

[Joseph]

Wilder?! Come on…

[TonyRespectful]

Oscar was great but he can be criticized. Breadman comes across a bit like he wants to have a good relationship with a promoter.And that's understandable. But there's no way an active trainer is going to be completely honest here. If you were you would step on too many toes.It would cost you money. So Breadman will always hold back and/or kiss up .

[OnePunch]

De La Hoya was a gun for sure.

But how is Wilder a gun? Because he fought Luis Ortiz, Fury, and Joseph Parker?

nah, it was definitely the Stiverne fights that put him over the top......LOL

[Poopdick]

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What exactly did Freddie Roach do in boxing? Yet he’s considered as one of the best trainers ever. Same goes with Derrick James and Virgil Hunter who had just one fighter.
So, why are you looking at Breadman under different criteria?

training up Pac and training up J rock is many different levels. ODLH also praised roach as a trainer during his time with him. as has Mike Tyson etc. come on. Come on now. Derrick James is same. I've never upped him either. part of pbc hype jobs. And Virgil Hunter? Come on now. if you a great trainer you've worked with different champs at a level where they have truly grown/improved under you. not 1 guy

[ShoulderRoll]

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What exactly did Freddie Roach do in boxing? Yet he’s considered as one of the best trainers ever. Same goes with Derrick James and Virgil Hunter who had just one fighter.
So, why are you looking at Breadman under different criteria?

Roach didn’t do much as a fighter but he’s done a hell of a lot as a trainer. With more than just one fighter.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oscar was great but he can be criticized. Breadman comes across a bit like he wants to have a good relationship with a promoter.And that's understandable. But there's no way an active trainer is going to be completely honest here. If you were you would step on too many toes.It would cost you money. So Breadman will always hold back and/or kiss up .

De La Hoya can be criticized for a lot of things but not for his resume. He fought absolutely everyone, even when he didn’t have to because he was the A-side.

[TonyRespectful]

De La Hoya can be criticized for a lot of things but not for his resume. He fought absolutely everyone, even when he didn’t have to because he was the A-side.

I'm not going into it now but the details on his resume will show Arum was a master of favorable timing to say the least. And he did have to fight everyone because ducking was not like today. Marinating yes,ducking no .

[ShoulderRoll]

I'm not going into it now but the details on his resume will show Arum was a master of favorable timing to say the least. And he did have to fight everyone because ducking was not like today. Marinating yes,ducking no .

He didn’t have to fight Ike Quartey for example. Or drain himself to fight Pacquiao. He simply always chased the big money fights against whoever.

[Oregonian]

training up Pac and training up J rock is many different levels. ODLH also praised roach as a trainer during his time with him. as has Mike Tyson etc. come on. Come on now. Derrick James is same. I've never upped him either. part of pbc hype jobs. And Virgil Hunter? Come on now. if you a great trainer you've worked with different champs at a level where they have truly grown/improved under you. not 1 guy

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I’m not saying Breadman is on the same level as Roach. Far from it.

I was responding to this malarkey, “ he hasn't done much in sport but talk talk talk.”

Breadman just raised his profile with Plant. This is coming from a guy who wasn’t a pro boxer.

Knocking on him is just petty.

Hunter had one guy just like Roger Mayweather had one guy.

Boxing is a tough sport as it is and yet we have people nitpicking things because they disagree with Breadman or anyone for that matter

[The D3vil]

Bread is on point! The question is could Ryan beat Haney, if he makes 140, and does not use PEDs? I'm sure we will never get an answer to that question!!! Haney did nothing wrong, and he's getting all the hate! That's incredible, but unfortunately, that's the world we live in!

It's because Tank & Ryan have a whole legion of groupies who fight their battles for them online.