Floyd "Pretty Boy" Mayweather vs. Gervonta "Tank" Davis at 135 or 140.

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by daggum

    and how many years did floyd fight post ndou? floyd had fought on the championship level for only 5 years when he fought ndou. he fought for another 14 years after that. not really comparing the same thing now are we? 5 years to 14, and if you look at the stats floyd fought 4 fights against the #1 best guy in the division in that first 5 year span and only had 4 fights against the #1 best guy in the division in his last 14 years and one of those was a catchweight fight so that is dubious. thats a pretty dramatic drop in level. just like i said. even when you look at top 5 guys, he fought 5 pre ndou and 9 after so 5 in 5 years and then 9 in 14 years. how is that not a drop in opposition?

    no it surely did not increase as the numbers show.
    So he fought 9 after and 5 before? That is a drop to you?

    He actually fought five #1 ranked guys post Ndou by the way; Gatti, Baldomir, Cotto, Canelo and Pacquaio.

    What about P4P ranked fighters? How many did he beat pre Ndou compared to post Ndou?

    How many world titles did he win pre and post Ndou?

    He beat either a Top 5 ranked or Top 10 P4P every single year he was an active fighte fought post Ndou except 2014 where it was Top 10 ranked ;

    2005 - Gatti #1
    2006 - Baldmoir - #1
    2007 - De La Hoya - #3
    2009 - Marquez P4P #2
    2010 - Mosley - #3 P4P #3
    2011 - Ortiz - #2
    2012 - Cotto - #1
    2013 - Canelo #1
    2014 - Maidana - #9
    2015 - Pacqauio - #1 P4P #2

    So for 9 years straight post Ndou he consistently beat Top 5 and P4P ranked fighters. Going by your rankings that you deem as “facts”

    How could you possibly argue that’s a drop in competition? At worst it’s the same level.





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    • IronDanHamza
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      #42
      Originally posted by daggum

      i am evaluating everyone equally. you just dont like that it makes people like tank and wilder look bad. thats the whole point. i never said floyd fought bums or anything like that. i said he cherry picked, avoided fights and waited for people to get old which is unequivocally true. why you are insulted or find that controversial i have no idea. i dont just cite rankings and then turn my brain off, the rankings are simply a guide to follow. the guys he fought pre ndou were more impressive. the guys he fought post ndou all had a catch. pre ndou floyd wouldnt wait for pac and cotto to be knocked out etc...
      !!! Sometimes I wonder are you that deluded that you believe what you say or are you just straight up retarded?

      How could you possibly say that?

      “I don’t just cite rankings and turn my brain off” that is LITERALLY what you do When it suits you.

      You literally just days ago credited Ken Norton for beating Duane Bobick. Do you actually consider that an impressive win? Have you ever actually seen Bobick fight? No you haven’t. Hence why it’s literally what you do.

      You actually tried to argue that Fulton and Spence have the same level resume and deemed it a “fact” because they’ve beaten the same amount of ranked fighters. Literally no context to it, just simply because of the rankings.

      I’ve seen you heap praise on Rigondeaux for beating Rico Ramos because he was “ranked” when Ramos is garbage.

      You are the literal epitome of brainlessly citing rankings, while picking and choosing when they matter depending on the fighter.

      You are doing it IN THIS THREAD.

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      • Roadblock
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        #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        !!! Sometimes I wonder are you that deluded that you believe what you say or are you just straight up retarded?

        How could you possibly say that?

        “I don’t just cite rankings and turn my brain off” that is LITERALLY what you do When it suits you.

        You literally just days ago credited Ken Norton for beating Duane Bobick. Do you actually consider that an impressive win? Have you ever actually seen Bobick fight? No you haven’t. Hence why it’s literally what you do.

        You actually tried to argue that Fulton and Spence have the same level resume and deemed it a “fact” because they’ve beaten the same amount of ranked fighters. Literally no context to it, just simply because of the rankings.

        I’ve seen you heap praise on Rigondeaux for beating Rico Ramos because he was “ranked” when Ramos is garbage.

        You are the literal epitome of brainlessly citing rankings, while picking and choosing when they matter depending on the fighter.

        You are doing it IN THIS THREAD.
        I had a good laugh on that one lol.

        He is the most contradictive flip-flopping poster on the forum, I think he just forgets what he says from thread to thread, and when it comes to Floyd he spins more dribble than a lippy dog on a hot day, he is hater to the core with no logic or consistency other than talking sht.

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        • Roadblock
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          #44
          Haters are always the same, put them back in their box and its crickets until they start the same BS somewhere else, its just unreal how they function.

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          • sbbigmike
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            #45
            Originally posted by Roadblock

            Other than Manny who was about 2/4 pound smaller across 5 divisions, they weren't smaller where did you get that from, Cotto Hatton Maidana all outweighed him on fight night, maybe even Zab did but I don't know what he was, people just go blah and never research anything they rather roll with small talk than actually finding out the facts.
            I'm talking smaller height wise, Floyd had issues hitting those guys clean pay attention

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            • Roadblock
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              #46
              Originally posted by sbbigmike

              I'm talking smaller height wise, Floyd had issues hitting those guys clean pay attention
              We are talking boxing not basketball, smaller in boxing is weight, I try to pay attention that's why Im careful with words that's why I said Manny was smaller from 130 to 154 except against Floyd I believe Manny was a little heavier, Cotto Hatton and Maidaina were all heavier Cotto Maidana by a lot.

              He didn't have problems landing on Cotto Hatton Manny or Maidana other than the class of fighter they were he out
              landed on all of them.

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              • djtmal
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                #47
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                We are talking boxing not basketball, smaller in boxing is weight,
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                smaller isn't just weight

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                • PeasantCrusha
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                  #48
                  Floyd would make it look EASY. Tank is good but Floyd was on another level SKILL wise. All that power ain't shet if you won't be landing shots.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by PeasantCrusha
                    Floyd would make it look EASY. Tank is good but Floyd was on another level SKILL wise. All that power ain't shet if you won't be landing shots.
                    Pump the brakes. When he was with Roger, Floyd got hit more in the lower weights. If Corley the c fighter's c fighter could tag him good @ 140, I give Tank a shot.
                    Last edited by djtmal; 06-28-2024, 08:01 AM.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      !!! Sometimes I wonder are you that deluded that you believe what you say or are you just straight up retarded?

                      How could you possibly say that?

                      “I don’t just cite rankings and turn my brain off” that is LITERALLY what you do When it suits you.

                      You literally just days ago credited Ken Norton for beating Duane Bobick. Do you actually consider that an impressive win? Have you ever actually seen Bobick fight? No you haven’t. Hence why it’s literally what you do.

                      You actually tried to argue that Fulton and Spence have the same level resume and deemed it a “fact” because they’ve beaten the same amount of ranked fighters. Literally no context to it, just simply because of the rankings.

                      I’ve seen you heap praise on Rigondeaux for beating Rico Ramos because he was “ranked” when Ramos is garbage.

                      You are the literal epitome of brainlessly citing rankings, while picking and choosing when they matter depending on the fighter.

                      You are doing it IN THIS THREAD.
                      Iron Dan additing onto his Floyd defense stats

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