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  • #31
    Originally posted by Roj View Post
    Besides, as much as I’d actually like to see them literally in the ring fighting each other in a rematch, everything leading up to that moment - the pre-fight drama, Garcia’s erratic behavior. Bill Haney’s obnoxiousness and money-grubbing Devin’s lack of personality and charisma - would be too exhausting to be worth the actual fight.

    You could always ignore all of that and just enjoy the fight. I don't pay attention to any of that stuff , it's easy to miss if you don't seek it out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Haney might have real grounds for a lawsuit. Losing to a weight cheat and PED user drastically affected his income, as seen by the purse bid for him and Sandor Martin.
      It could always be argued that the loss to Garcia doesn't have anything to do with the current purse.
      I agree with you and believe that it has a lot to do with it , proving it in a court would be really difficult.

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      • #33
        I'm all for Haney vs Garcia 2! I think it's a very interesting rematch with a lot of bad blood that will sell very good!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

          I’ll let the prior posters speak on behalf of me since they have said it perfectly. Garcia’s career is far from over. I stand by my original. If all are not on VADA 24/7 of course they are going to fight him. You seem a little lost here. He never admitted to anything and seem a little emotional about.
          I know that this is hard for Ryan Garcia fans like yourself to understand but it's a known fact that both him and his legal team met with the NYSAC in secret. In order to iron out a plea deal. Which is the reason why the commission went soft on him. Part of the deal was for him to first plead guilty to the Ostarine charge by admitting and confessing that he had indeed done it and that all his claims of cross contamination were false. He fulfilled that part of the deal and the rest was paying a $10K fine to the New York State Athletic Commission and also returning his guaranteed purse of $1.2Mil back to Golden Boy Promotions In exchange for a one year suspension while being credited for 2 months served from April 20-June 20. While reversing the original verdict from a Win to a No Contest and lastly agreeing to report to a WADA type testing agency for random drug testing based out of Salt Lake City, Utah. Had Ryan Garcia not come clean about the Ostarine charge he could have potentially and easily been facing a lifetime ban from boxing along with serving a prison sentence for his violation of the NYSAC statute in the process.

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          • #35
            It’s going to be a tough sell. PEDs doesn’t make a guy hit you with the same punch over and over again. He was mightily exposed plus he was never a marketable fighter
            MulaKO MulaKO likes this.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321 View Post
              It’s the reason why Devin Haney is suing Ryan Garcia in the first place. That original loss has cost him Millions of dollars as only one promoter Top rank gave him a low ball offer of $2 Mil. Also, Haney is suing Garcia for the physical damage he sustained in that fight as well. The beating he took could have shaven several years off his career.
              That might be be true, but it's not what you know but what you can prove, and how much your willing to spend to prove it.

              Playing devils advocate, a case can be made that Devin Haney was never a draw. Devin's opponents created his wealth and all you have to do is go back to George Kambosos to make that case. Top Rank bid 2 million because they saw what Martin did to Teo but Sandor Martin is unknown, there is no money in it. Even if Devin won there is still no money fighting Sandor and neither Bill or Eddie would ever want that fight anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob put the bid in just to burn Eddie's ass but I digress. As for sustaining physical damage and beating people up, that's just part of boxing, you give up those rights when you sign the contract.

              The Haney's may push for fraud but it's expensive and again, hard to prove. Devin Haney has a lot of money and Bill knows his brand is damaged so Bill is going to lay it on like never before. I expect Bill Haney to fight hard while it's on the front burner but the cost will eat up most of what he makes, and that assumes he will win. Keep in mind, Ryan Garcia also has a lot of money and Ryan's brand is shameless, self justified and self absorbed. Ryan is young and like every young guy he thinks he can make it all back so he'll likley spend $10 to save $5. Ryan may be smarter than I think, he may settle, but some how I doubt it.​
              Last edited by factsarenice; 06-23-2024, 11:31 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321 View Post
                Don’t you believe that you are being a bit naive? Perhaps and maybe for the exception of Vergil Ortiz. Do you really believe that fighters like Shakur Stevenson, Jaron Boots Ennis, Teofimo Lopez or an even a Tank Davis would be willing to fight him now? In light of all of these new revelations about him and the fact that he has now
                come clean about his alleged PED use by admitting that he did knowingly and intentionally took Ostarine on purpose to cheat as part of his plea agreement with the NYSAC? Face it man! Ryan Garca’s career is over. It has been proven as an established fact that he is indeed a roider, drug cheat and doper. His opponents will never trust him again. They are always going to be looking over their shoulders wondering what illegal substance he has in his system now.
                Lmfao
                Tank is already setting up a rematch with him
                He can’t stop talking Garcia
                To think that with all the publicity he’s getting , whether good or bad , would restrain one of those guys to fight him ( mind you Tank will probably make double what he made for the first one ) that my friend is what I call naive
                All those guys would be willing to line their pockets and literally not give two fughs about him being caught or being on peds

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pnut901 View Post

                  It could always be argued that the loss to Garcia doesn't have anything to do with the current purse.
                  I agree with you and believe that it has a lot to do with it , proving it in a court would be really difficult.
                  All Haney has to do is show the court his purses for Kambosos 1, Kambosos 2, Prograis, and Ryan Garcia…then compare those to the purse bid for Sandor Martin after Ryan cheated and beat him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by whirlout View Post
                    It’s going to be a tough sell. PEDs doesn’t make a guy hit you with the same punch over and over again. He was mightily exposed plus he was never a marketable fighter
                    PEDs and not making the weight limit. Ryan cheated in several ways and now Haney’s income earning ability has taken a major hit.

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                    • #40
                      Ryan should tell him to go f’k off if Haney sues him. Haney wasn’t a PPV attraction prior to Garcia fight, and he won’t be one after. Even if he had beaten Ryan no one cares about Haney’s boring style and weight bullying. Now he wants to sue Ryan because he knows he can never pull another big PPV without him. Such a b**** move.

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