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  • Oregonian
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

    Spare me the indignation. Ryan got caught doing what all are doing. Period…end of story. Otherwise ALL FIGHTERS would be enrolled in VADA 24/7. One got caught, the other cycled off to not get caught. You’re kidding yourself into believing that all in the sport haven’t done PEDs
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    Any boxer not on VADA is 100% juicing. To believe otherwise is to also believe in unicorns and dragons.

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    • Slip jab
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      #22
      Regarding a rematch, with the physical and emotional damage that he’s seeking legally He may be too distraught to agree to it. I dont think Garcia would give him the rematch.

      -I’m more interested in what Haney is going to do about the mandatory, if he vacates, who will Martin face? In the ratings for this site Russell is contender #2 but he just lost to Puelo who is like #8. Catteral is 3 but he’s fighting prograis who’s not in the top 5. The 4 and 5 contenders are with Match Room. Haney better take the fight because where does he go from here?

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      • CoolDSmoove321
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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

        Spare me the indignation. Ryan got caught doing what all are doing. Period…end of story. Otherwise ALL FIGHTERS would be enrolled in VADA 24/7. One got caught, the other cycled off to not get caught. You’re kidding yourself into believing that all in the sport haven’t done PEDs
        Don’t you believe that you are being a bit naive? Perhaps and maybe for the exception of Vergil Ortiz. Do you really believe that fighters like Shakur Stevenson, Jaron Boots Ennis, Teofimo Lopez or an even a Tank Davis would be willing to fight him now? In light of all of these new revelations about him and the fact that he has now
        come clean about his alleged PED use by admitting that he did knowingly and intentionally took Ostarine on purpose to cheat as part of his plea agreement with the NYSAC? Face it man! Ryan Garca’s career is over. It has been proven as an established fact that he is indeed a roider, drug cheat and doper. His opponents will never trust him again. They are always going to be looking over their shoulders wondering what illegal substance he has in his system now.
        Last edited by CoolDSmoove321; 06-23-2024, 01:33 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
          Don’t you believe that you are being a bit naive? Perhaps and maybe for the exception of Vergil Ortiz. Do you really believe that fighters like Shakur Stevenson, Jaron Boots Ennis, Teofimo Lopez or an even a Tank Davis would be willing to fight him now? In light of all of these new revelations about him and the fact that he has now
          come clean about his alleged PED use by admitting that he did knowingly and intentionally took Ostarine on purpose to cheat as part of his plea agreement with the NYSAC? Face it man! Ryan Garca’s career is over. It has been proven as an established fact that he is indeed a roider, drug cheat and doper. His opponents will never trust him again. They are always going to be looking over their shoulders wondering what illegal substance he has in his system now.
          They dont have to trust him, obviously when youre in the ped hot seat scrutinized testing is a massive deterrent, some guys will refuse to fight under such a testing spotlight because they cannot beat testing when testing is focused on them.

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            #25
            Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
            As well as he should. Ryan Garcia’s conduct that night was not only borderline criminal but a reckless and tortious act as well. Haney should sue him for all its worth. I have very little sympathy for Ryan Garcia. Don’t kid yourself! Name me one good, undefeated and elite fighter who would want to fight Ryan Garcia now after he has admitted to have deliberately taken Ostarine as part of his plea bargain deal with the New York State Athletic Commission? This fight has irreparably tarnished and stained Ryan Garcia’s reputation forever.
            Why would u make stuff up? Princess ry didn’t admit to deliberately taking ostarine, that’s not part of the settlement with the NYAC that’s fake news that you just made up out of thin air and it’s not a plea bargain, they weren’t criminal court,give your head a shame lmao. You made up most of your post and you are 100% wrong about garcia reputation being irreparable lol. I’m not even a fan of this guy but based on the findings and the fact that conte was so involved in the testing means there’s more questions than answers. Haney needs garcia badly if he ever wants another big payday no one cares to watch him anymore he’s clearly not close to the best in the division and he’s boring af

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            • factsarenice
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              #26
              First, I suspect Devin Haney will avoid Sandor Martin and second, hell no there won't be a rematch. Both guys are great shrinking down to fight smaller guys, that's why they act like a holes at the weigh in. Both Ryan and Devin won't be able to make 140 next year and when that happens they'll run into.... not so easy prime 147lb fighters. I expect both, including Teofimo Lopez to make believe they never heard of Jaron Ennis.

              So no, there is not going to be a rematch next year and no, Devin Haney is not going to win a significant amount for lost wages and damages, it's too hard to prove.
              Last edited by factsarenice; 06-23-2024, 04:26 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                As well as he should. Ryan Garcia’s conduct that night was not only borderline criminal but a reckless and tortious act as well. Haney should sue him for all its worth. I have very little sympathy for Ryan Garcia. Don’t kid yourself! Name me one good, undefeated and elite fighter who would want to fight Ryan Garcia now after he has admitted to have deliberately taken Ostarine as part of his plea bargain deal with the New York State Athletic Commission? This fight has irreparably tarnished and stained Ryan Garcia’s reputation forever.

                Wow, where do I start?
                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                As well as he should. Ryan Garcia’s conduct that night was not only borderline criminal but a reckless and tortious act as well. Haney should sue him for all its worth.
                Haney can sue anyone he wants but nobody does because the winning part is too difficult.

                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                I have very little sympathy for Ryan Garcia.
                Actually nobody has sympathy for Ryan and not many actually feel all that warm and fuzzy about Devin Haney either...but carry on.

                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                Don’t kid yourself! Name me one good, undefeated and elite fighter who would want to fight Ryan Garcia now after he has admitted to have deliberately taken Ostarine as part of his plea bargain deal with the New York State Athletic Commission?
                Sure, nobody will want to fight Garcia just like nobody wants to fight Canelo. If you watched the fight you would know that Ryan Garcia is a draw with a massive following and... Ryan can't make 140lbs. I think it's reasonable to believe that Jarron Ennis at 147 would be thrilled to beat the life out of Ryan Garcia for the biggest payday of his career. As for the rest of it, you completely made that shyt up, Garcia never admitted to deliberately taking anything to the NY Athletic Commission. That's a figment of your imagination..... but by all means carry on.

                Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                This fight has irreparably tarnished and stained Ryan Garcia’s reputation forever.
                Just so you know....because you sound like you don't. Ryan Garcia has fast hands, a hook, and a huge following because he's an abrasive jerk and stains are just part of his promotion.

                No offense but how old are you? Your remarks seem a little naive.​
                Last edited by factsarenice; 06-23-2024, 04:24 AM.

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                • CoolDSmoove321
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by factsarenice
                  First, I suspect Devin Haney will avoid Sandor Martin and second, hell no there won't be a rematch. Both guys are great shrinking down to fight smaller guys, that's why they act like a holes at the weigh in. Both Ryan and Devin won't be able to make 140 next year and when that happens they'll run into.... not so easy prime 147lb fighters. I expect both, including Teofimo Lopez to make believe they never heard of Jaron Ennis.

                  So no, there is not going to be a rematch next year and no, Devin Haney is not going to win a significant amount for lost wages and damages, it's too hard to prove.
                  It’s the reason why Devin Haney is suing Ryan Garcia in the first place. That original loss has cost him Millions of dollars as only one promoter Top rank gave him a low ball offer of $2 Mil. Also, Haney is suing Garcia for the physical damage he sustained in that fight as well. The beating he took could have shaven several years off his career.
                  Last edited by CoolDSmoove321; 06-23-2024, 07:07 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Ryan didn’t bother to make the weight either. He’s lazy and likes to take shortcuts and behaved completely unprofessionally.
                    I won’t disagree there. However, he isn’t the first or the last. Haney had every opportunity to cancel the fight. It’s been done before.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CoolDSmoove321
                      Don’t you believe that you are being a bit naive? Perhaps and maybe for the exception of Vergil Ortiz. Do you really believe that fighters like Shakur Stevenson, Jaron Boots Ennis, Teofimo Lopez or an even a Tank Davis would be willing to fight him now? In light of all of these new revelations about him and the fact that he has now
                      come clean about his alleged PED use by admitting that he did knowingly and intentionally took Ostarine on purpose to cheat as part of his plea agreement with the NYSAC? Face it man! Ryan Garca’s career is over. It has been proven as an established fact that he is indeed a roider, drug cheat and doper. His opponents will never trust him again. They are always going to be looking over their shoulders wondering what illegal substance he has in his system now.
                      I’ll let the prior posters speak on behalf of me since they have said it perfectly. Garcia’s career is far from over. I stand by my original. If all are not on VADA 24/7 of course they are going to fight him. You seem a little lost here. He never admitted to anything and seem a little emotional about.

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