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    #11
    Eh, Benavidez supposedly tore a tendon in his hand in training camp. That could explain why he couldn’t stop Gvozdyk even though he was dominating him for most of that fight and constantly bouncing his head around like a rag doll.

    I wouldn’t be in a rush to write him off just yet.

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      #12
      I don't often buy excuses but his hand looked all swollen up post fight. This was a solid performance I think he will improve.

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        #13
        It is quite clear that Canelo Alvarez, Dimtri Bivol and Arthur Beterbiev are levels above David Benavidez skill for skill.

        If all three of those fighters are in solid form, it would be very difficult for Benavidez to win rounds against them consistently.

        David Benavidez best attributes as a fighter, have not historically been the area's of boxing 'Which have challenged Canelo Alvarez greatly'.

        That is why? I have always been adamant that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street.

        Movement, Gears, Elite level defense, Mid to Long range game. Those are the area's combined which a fighter needs to stylistically put Alvarez in a very difficult fight.

        David Benavidez has not at any point of his career, stylistically been that type of fighter 'That is why tactically the fight in terms of preparation is not a difficult fight for Alvarez when he is in solid condition'.

        Note: David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez would still be a competitive fight, because? Benavidez's style of fighting will at least attempt to apply mases of pressure upon Alvarez. But when a fighter is competing against elite level boxers skill for skill, they more than just pressure. There needs to be a sophistication, and creativity with their offense. I have not seen that type of ability from David Benavidez'.

        Canelo Alvarez's best attribute is his inside game, combined with his defense on attack 'David Benavidez entire game is about directly confronting Alvarez in the area where he is best. In that style of fight, I believe Alvarez's inside game would just have too much sophistication and effectiveness for Benavidez to win rounds consistently'.

        David Benavdiez vs Canelo Alvarez 'Is a very similar match up to Kelly Pavlik vs Bernard Hopkins. On a surface level, to people who don't analyse boxing match in-depth? The fight appeared to be a potentially brutal fight for Bernard Hopkins. But for anybody who understands boxing, they where aware that stylistically Kelly Pavlik was a fight straight up Bernard Hopkin's street'.

        Canelo Alvarez in solid condition, in a match up against David Benavidez 'Is in that same type of dynamic' Benavidez skill for skill is not on Alvarez's level overall as a a pure boxer etc.


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          #14
          Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

          Beterbiev’s b i tch ass can’t even make it to the Bivol fight with his fake ass injury.

          Bivol and Beterbiev ducked each other for 6-7 years, they’ll duck Benavidez until they’re 50.
          You're probably talking about the wrong guy if you're trying to belittle this guy. I would pick a different person who hasn't beaten the **** out of everyone he's ever fought.

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            #15
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            It is quite clear that Canelo Alvarez, Dimtri Bivol and Arthur Beterbiev are levels above David Benavidez skill for skill.

            If all three of those fighters are in solid form, it would be very difficult for Benavidez to win rounds against them consistently.

            David Benavidez best attributes as a fighter, have not historically been the area's of boxing 'Which have challenged Canelo Alvarez greatly'.

            That is why? I have always been adamant that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street.

            Movement, Gears, Elite level defense, Mid to Long range game. Those are the area's combined which a fighter needs to stylistically put Alvarez in a very difficult fight.

            David Benavidez has not at any point of his career, stylistically been that type of fighter 'That is why tactically the fight in terms of preparation is not a difficult fight for Alvarez when he is in solid condition'.

            Note: David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez would still be a competitive fight, because? Benavidez's style of fighting will at least attempt to apply mases of pressure upon Alvarez. But when a fighter is competing against elite level boxers skill for skill, they more than just pressure. There needs to be a sophistication, and creativity with their offense. I have not seen that type of ability from David Benavidez'.

            Canelo Alvarez's best attribute is his inside game, combined with his defense on attack 'David Benavidez entire game is about directly confronting Alvarez in the area where he is best. In that style of fight, I believe Alvarez's inside game would just have too much sophistication and effectiveness for Benavidez to win rounds consistently'.

            David Benavdiez vs Canelo Alvarez 'Is a very similar match up to Kelly Pavlik vs Bernard Hopkins. On a surface level, to people who don't analyse boxing match in-depth? The fight appeared to be a potentially brutal fight for Bernard Hopkins. But for anybody who understands boxing, they where aware that stylistically Kelly Pavlik was a fight straight up Bernard Hopkin's street'.

            Canelo Alvarez in solid condition, in a match up against David Benavidez 'Is in that same type of dynamic' Benavidez skill for skill is not on Alvarez's level overall as a a pure boxer etc.

            This is a good post but at 168 or 175 Canelo loses this fight. He doesn't have what it takes anymore to keep Benavides from winning a UD.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Eh, Benavidez supposedly tore a tendon in his hand in training camp. That could explain why he couldn’t stop Gvozdyk even though he was dominating him for most of that fight and constantly bouncing his head around like a rag doll.

              I wouldn’t be in a rush to write him off just yet.
              He didn't dominate every round and he slowed down a lot after the 5th or 6th round. He couldn't even hurt him man not once. You're saying ragdoll I never saw even once one time where anyone was hurt in this fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Oracle01
                beterbiev went life and death with yarde and dropped multiple times by cans but apparently David has no chance. ye ok lol. This was his first fight at 175 vs a top 5 former WC, he will improve, plus he had injured hands.
                What exactly do you call life and death? He dominated the fight and knocked out yarde. You were watching a completely different fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing Scene

                  He didn't dominate every round and he slowed down a lot after the 5th or 6th round. He couldn't even hurt him man not once. You're saying ragdoll I never saw even once one time where anyone was hurt in this fight.
                  That's the thing, Benavidez couldn't hurt him at all. Not even a stumble. That's kind of scary. Plus he looked small flabby, if that's a thing.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    It is quite clear that Canelo Alvarez, Dimtri Bivol and Arthur Beterbiev are levels above David Benavidez skill for skill.

                    If all three of those fighters are in solid form, it would be very difficult for Benavidez to win rounds against them consistently.

                    David Benavidez best attributes as a fighter, have not historically been the area's of boxing 'Which have challenged Canelo Alvarez greatly'.

                    That is why? I have always been adamant that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street.

                    Movement, Gears, Elite level defense, Mid to Long range game. Those are the area's combined which a fighter needs to stylistically put Alvarez in a very difficult fight.

                    David Benavidez has not at any point of his career, stylistically been that type of fighter 'That is why tactically the fight in terms of preparation is not a difficult fight for Alvarez when he is in solid condition'.

                    Note: David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez would still be a competitive fight, because? Benavidez's style of fighting will at least attempt to apply mases of pressure upon Alvarez. But when a fighter is competing against elite level boxers skill for skill, they more than just pressure. There needs to be a sophistication, and creativity with their offense. I have not seen that type of ability from David Benavidez'.

                    Canelo Alvarez's best attribute is his inside game, combined with his defense on attack 'David Benavidez entire game is about directly confronting Alvarez in the area where he is best. In that style of fight, I believe Alvarez's inside game would just have too much sophistication and effectiveness for Benavidez to win rounds consistently'.

                    David Benavdiez vs Canelo Alvarez 'Is a very similar match up to Kelly Pavlik vs Bernard Hopkins. On a surface level, to people who don't analyse boxing match in-depth? The fight appeared to be a potentially brutal fight for Bernard Hopkins. But for anybody who understands boxing, they where aware that stylistically Kelly Pavlik was a fight straight up Bernard Hopkin's street'.

                    Canelo Alvarez in solid condition, in a match up against David Benavidez 'Is in that same type of dynamic' Benavidez skill for skill is not on Alvarez's level overall as a a pure boxer etc.

                    Alvarez is great defense

                    Ben is hittable

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing Scene

                      He didn't dominate every round and he slowed down a lot after the 5th or 6th round. He couldn't even hurt him man not once. You're saying ragdoll I never saw even once one time where anyone was hurt in this fight.
                      He did get tired towards the end but arguably won every round till about 7 or 8. And was constantly bouncing punches off Gvozdyk’s head.

                      You are right that Benavidez didn’t appear to be able to hurt him but the hand injuries could have had something to do with that.

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