Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Is Deontay Wilder Destined for Hall of Fame?

[Clegg]

Misleading to say that everybody else who managed 10 title defences got into the HOF. It was far harder to do in all of the earlier eras because there weren't 4 belts available.

He won a paper title because he didn't want to see the champ of the division. Then held it hostage for years, then got beat by 3 different fighters because they were the best 3 guys he fought. People are saying he's the 4th best HW of the era but Parker has more impressive wins and is still performing so Wilder is 5th at best imo.

[SilverMiles]

Hall of Fame has never been a resume battle; sure, many in the Hall of Fame have good resumes, but they were also instrumental to the sport during their reign. Wilder was an instrumental part of this heavyweight era and boxing in general, even with his resume, which barely consists of any wins over the top ten heavies. Much likely, Gatti, who was rightfully inducted, Wilder will be inducted into the Hall of Fame, eventually.

[boxing IQ]

You think this is a weak era? I suffered through the Klitschko era where you had the Ibragimov's, Lyakovich, David Haye screwing around, then before that you had Ruiz, Skelton etc. Really having a Big 4 is a lot better than two dominant brothers(who won't fight eachother) crushing everybody far below them.

Also captain hindsight, the guys he's losing to recently were not much better than the opponents he crushed in the past. Secondly it's easy to act like he's 'exposed' now that he's in his late 30s and has all that mileage especially from the brutal Fury fights.

The question is not if Wilder is an ATG, the question is if he's a HOF worthy. Two very different things. Have you looked at the HOF list of HW's in it? You probably haven't. It's far from crazy to include the highest KO % ever with 10 title defences in a big 4 era.

You could even go as far as to say he was arguably the best for a time when Fury was out and AJ wasn't fighting him.

If he fought and knocked out AJ back then (undisputed) or if Reiss stopped the fight (lineal), it'd be enough to tip him right over the cusp he's sitting on.

[wrecksracer]

You think this is a weak era? I suffered through the Klitschko era where you had the Ibragimov's, Lyakovich, David Haye screwing around, then before that you had Ruiz, Skelton etc. Really having a Big 4 is a lot better than two dominant brothers(who won't fight eachother) crushing everybody far below them.

Also captain hindsight, the guys he's losing to recently were not much better than the opponents he crushed in the past. Secondly it's easy to act like he's 'exposed' now that he's in his late 30s and has all that mileage especially from the brutal Fury fights.

The question is not if Wilder is an ATG, the question is if he's a HOF worthy. Two very different things. Have you looked at the HOF list of HW's in it? You probably haven't. It's far from crazy to include the highest KO % ever with 10 title defences in a big 4 era.

Both Klitschkos on their worst day would beat Wilder. Wilder did have the chance to fight Vlad, and ducked it. It's great that you like Wilder, but once again, his KO% had everything to do with who he was fighting. Wow! Look at all the cans he knocked out.

[BKM-]

Both Klitschkos on their worst day would beat Wilder. Wilder did have the chance to fight Vlad, and ducked it. It's great that you like Wilder, but once again, his KO% had everything to do with who he was fighting. Wow! Look at all the cans he knocked out.

It has nothing to do with whether the Klitschko's would beat him or not. Try to stay focused, maybe that's too much to ask, try not to get distracted from playing on your phone while making posts.

I do not respect or take keyboard warriors who call pro fighters "cans" seriously. We're done here.

[daggum]

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You think this is a weak era? I suffered through the Klitschko era where you had the Ibragimov's, Lyakovich, David Haye screwing around, then before that you had Ruiz, Skelton etc. Really having a Big 4 is a lot better than two dominant brothers(who won't fight eachother) crushing everybody far below them.

Also captain hindsight, the guys he's losing to recently were not much better than the opponents he crushed in the past. Secondly it's easy to act like he's 'exposed' now that he's in his late 30s and has all that mileage especially from the brutal Fury fights.

The question is not if Wilder is an ATG, the question is if he's a HOF worthy. Two very different things. Have you looked at the HOF list of HW's in it? You probably haven't. It's far from crazy to include the highest KO % ever with 10 title defences in a big 4 era.[/QUOTE]

Are you having a laugh? Parker Zhang and fury are clearly much better than duhapas spilzka and Washington types. He crushed those guys because they are easily crushable.

Out of those 10 defenses he beat 1 top 10 ring ranked opponent. Thats a bad thing and shows He was matched soft. His ko percentage against top 10 fighters is 25 percent. Yeah he's great at knocking over bums but why celebrate that? In comparison alis is 50 percent, louis' 75, Vitali 75, wlad 53 etc...he simply stuffed his resume with tomatos. Nice win over ortiz but Wilder wasn't great nor a huge puncher. He was mostly hype.

[wrecksracer]

It has nothing to do with whether the Klitschko's would beat him or not. Try to stay focused, maybe that's too much to ask, try not to get distracted from playing on your phone while making posts.

I do not respect or take keyboard warriors who call pro fighters "cans" seriously. We're done here.

He ducked Klitschko

[daggum]

Misleading to say that everybody else who managed 10 title defences got into the HOF. It was far harder to do in all of the earlier eras because there weren't 4 belts available.

He won a paper title because he didn't want to see the champ of the division. Then held it hostage for years, then got beat by 3 different fighters because they were the best 3 guys he fought. People are saying he's the 4th best HW of the era but Parker has more impressive wins and is still performing so Wilder is 5th at best imo.

Wilder is 10th if you go by resume: fury, Joshua, usyk, Parker, Joyce, Zhang, whyte, Povetkin, ruiz all have better resumes and clearly so. and Dubois is very close with Wilder ATM. 10th at best for Wilder. Title defenses against nobodies don't mean anything. Artur grigorian has 17 title defenses. Who is that? Exactly.

[Boxviewer]

It will be a devaluation of the HOF if a guy like Wilder with just 1 name of note, Ortiz, on his resume makes it into HOF.

[Boro]

of course he's getting in, if McGuigan, Gatti, Willard, Danny Lopez, Mancini and the likes can get in Wilder can it's not a resume contest it's a popularity contest...

Now if he's somehow a first ballot hall of famer, they've disgraced themselves...