With Tyson Fury's career coming to an end, does he make your top 25 heavyweights of all time?

[Noelanthony]

He is in my top 25 for the simple fact that because of his size and awkwardness he would give any Heavyweight fighter of the past a frustrating night. If you have Klitscho the longest serving heavyweight in your top 25 then Tyson has to be there. Having said that I have no qualms with anyone that disagrees as I agree he beat an off Klitscho that night and a fighter in Wilder that if he didn’t have dynamite in his fists would get beat by female boxers.For what it’s worth he doesn’t make my Top 20 but Usyk doesn’t make my top 10 either. These fighters of today can not go 15 rounds which is why Usyk excels because he can

[-Kev-]

I haven’t seen every HW in history fighting so I can’t rank him among all time. I also can’t go by boxrec, or, newspaper articles, because if writers back then were anything like they are now, I can’t trust their biased opinions. Lastly, I can’t rank HW’s from back in the 30s, 40s because boxing was a sport full of mostly Italians, ***ish, Irish and Germans. Basically mostly Western and Southern Europeans, so they didn’t have the variety in fighters like say Ali had, or even the variety that today’s HW’s have to deal with. And I just don’t care about how good they were back then in comparison to their opponents, there wasn’t much variety.

I think Tyson Fury is a top 25 HW of the last few decades. His loss isn’t that big of a deal as some are making it out to be because Usyk is someone who I think would be very hard to beat in any era of boxing. Even the eras I haven’t seen enough footage of. I just don’t know who would beat Usyk in the last 50 years. So I don’t fault Fury for losing to him.

[TheProudLunatic]

You are very passionate in this subject but there is a valid counter argument to your stance.

Every other era had numerous issues, ducks going on, flawed fighters reaching the top, in the 80s and 90s you had multiple "top" heavyweights with crack ******* and heroin addictions.

Most other "eras" were American dominated because Eastern Europeans weren't even competing, they were basically domestic divisions and can't be compared to the truly international division we have now.

The ATG discussion is often oversimplified. People will Take Muhammed Ali on his best night and put him up against Fury or AJ or whoever on their worst night's and say "see, no contest"

They'll never put Muhammed Ali who got chinned by Henry Cooper and was having all he could handle off the 175lb ham and egger until cuts bailed him out, and put him up against Fury from Wilder 2 or AJ from Klitschko.

Likewise Rahman 1 Lewis wouldn't be judged against them.

It's unbalanced in favour of the rose tinted glasses days.

Like I said before, outside of the top 4, no one else will be remembered fondly when they retire. We are struggling to mention them mention them now.
Bums beating other bums, so to speak.

Flukes happen, thats why they are so memorable (Cooper chinning Clay)
People mention that as if Cooper went on to bigger and better things
This is why flukes must be identified and acknowledged.
The winners did not go on to bigger and better things after their flukish W.

A career has to include fights 1-end....not just the prime.
If it's a recorded fight, it counts.
Mike Tyson losing to bums count as does him destroying bums count.

[Stab Master Arson]

Nope.

[ilovemesomeboxing]

tough crowd.....

[STREET CLEANER]

He has to finish his career first before he can be placed anywhere.

[JimRaynor]

Yes, Fury cracks the top 25….

People love to discredit a fighter after a loss, in this case a loss against what is now a solidified ATG in Usyk…

Fury dethroned Klitschko, beat the best American heavyweight and arguably the #1 heavyweight at the time in Wilder. Took down a slew of top contenders in Whyte, Chisora, and Wallin.

Fury has a solid resumé, and passes the eye test in regards to skill and talent.

[daggum]

Yes, Fury cracks the top 25….

People love to discredit a fighter after a loss, in this case a loss against what is now a solidified ATG in Usyk…

Fury dethroned Klitschko, beat the best American heavyweight and arguably the #1 heavyweight at the time in Wilder. Took down a slew of top contenders in Whyte, Chisora, and Wallin.

Fury has a solid resumé, and passes the eye test in regards to skill and talent.

How was wilder #1 though? Because usyk best joshua? Wouldn't that make usyk number 1? A win over joshua is certainly better than a win over ortiz and why would wilder leap over joshua simply because josgua lost to usyk? Did anyone leap over fury when fury lost to usyk? Nope. Wilder just hung around fighting bums waiting for everyone else to lose. Truly cowardly

[JimRaynor]

How was wilder #1 though? Because usyk best joshua? Wouldn't that make usyk number 1? A win over joshua is certainly better than a win over ortiz and why would wilder leap over joshua simply because josgua lost to usyk? Did anyone leap over fury when fury lost to usyk? Nope. Wilder just hung around fighting bums waiting for everyone else to lose. Truly cowardly

Wilder was arguably #1 when Fury fought him, not now. Back then the top dogs were AJ, Fury, and Wilder… Wilder was the WBC Champ, undefeated and had 10 title defenses. And everyone knew that at any point in those 12 rounds Wilder could end it even if he was behind 11 rounds.

[daggum]

Wilder was arguably #1 when Fury fought him, not now. Back then the top dogs were AJ, Fury, and Wilder… Wilder was the WBC Champ, undefeated and had 10 title defenses. And everyone knew that at any point in those 12 rounds Wilder could end it even if he was behind 11 rounds.

yeah but i just explained how that made no sense. why would he be #1? because joshua lost to usyk right? well why isnt usyk #1 then? not as many creampuff defenses like wilder? doesnt have the same knockout power against creampuffs as wilder? if you go by resume usyk would be above wilder and so would joshua since he still had a bette resume than wilder even though he lost. the same exact scenario literally just happenedw hen usyk beat fury. fury only fell 1 spot to make way for usyk. some other random guy who only fought bums didnt suddenly become #1 because fury lost