Would Mark Breland have prepared Wilder better than Malik Scott?

[Sparked_26]

I mean we've seen Wilder comprehensively outboxed by Artur Spzillka before now.

So I doubt it.

Wilder was never gonna last long. He did well to get this far.

[Rockybigblower]

I think once Wilder got into this groovin' 3way....his mojo and manhood just washed a way. He became his true authentic drug taking butt boying self.

[Pac=Duran]

In no universe down Wilder beat Zhang. 70 pounds weight difference, massive power difference and huge chin difference.

You need to box and move and tire that man out, and wilder has no feet

[Pac=Duran]

Hearing him speak on boxing.

If having a great boxing mind translates into a good trainer is more of a question. If that transalates into knowing someone's strengths & limitations & what you can add or not add to ones arsenal is more of a question.

This is one of the reasons I think Ben Davison is a tremendous trainer. I think the x's & o's of boxing can be learned by almost anyone with the desire to put in time. Look at all these zero knowledge coming in dad trainers that led their sons to amatuer success &/or pro boxing.

But seeing a boxers natural attributes, strengths & weaknesses & knowing what you can build on & what you can't is the art of training a boxer. Seeing his opps natural attributes, strengths & weakness & knowing what you can exploit & what you can't is the art of training a boxer. Very few guys are at that level.

I've heard enough to see Malik is a great thinker of boxing, but if hes got the ability to share that knowledge & do so correctly wasn't answered based on his limited time with a past prime Deontay.

You're the worst poster on this board by a country mile.

Malik Scott is a ****ing BUM. A no heart fight fixing bum that was hired by Beyonce because he's a Yes-Man that massages his ego, plain and simple

[PerfectJab]

Breland said in an interview that Wilder "had become untrainable" so no, it wouldn't have made a difference..

[BoxingParadigm]

I don't know, I'm not sure coaching or training is the issue for Wilder at this point.

[billeau2]

I mean we've seen Wilder comprehensively outboxed by Artur Spzillka before now.

So I doubt it.

Wilder was never gonna last long. He did well to get this far.

Thats a great point! As someone who has taught, coached... whatever, you do see how a person's personality affects possibilities. Ill mentionb two fighters: Holyfield, Fury. Both of these guys have an often overlooked positive... they are both very trainable fighters. Holy beat Bowe when he boxed, something he didn't necessarily prefer to do. He beat Tyson by following a plan to throw his weight forward coming in. Fury has always been open to different ways of winning...

Then we get fighters like Wilder or even Tyson who just do not have a personality that allows for that trait.

[4truth]

Hearing him speak on boxing.

If having a great boxing mind translates into a good trainer is more of a question. If that transalates into knowing someone's strengths & limitations & what you can add or not add to ones arsenal is more of a question.

This is one of the reasons I think Ben Davison is a tremendous trainer. I think the x's & o's of boxing can be learned by almost anyone with the desire to put in time. Look at all these zero knowledge coming in dad trainers that led their sons to amatuer success &/or pro boxing.

But seeing a boxers natural attributes, strengths & weaknesses & knowing what you can build on & what you can't is the art of training a boxer. Seeing his opps natural attributes, strengths & weakness & knowing what you can exploit & what you can't is the art of training a boxer. Very few guys are at that level.

I've heard enough to see Malik is a great thinker of boxing, but if hes got the ability to share that knowledge & do so correctly wasn't answered based on his limited time with a past prime Deontay.

It did look like Deontay was doing some deep thinking out there. In fact just before Zhang delivered the final baang, he appeared to be posing a philosophical question to the referee.

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[billeau2]

In no universe down Wilder beat Zhang. 70 pounds weight difference, massive power difference and huge chin difference.

You need to box and move and tire that man out, and wilder has no feet

Did his feet look bad to you? What I saw was issues with distance. Wilder, like Haye usually set up far away from his opponent.He did this because he had reach, and could jump in to punch when he wanted to do so. Wilder was right in front of Zhang... And he willingly went into the corner when Zhang approached. This was bonehead and it did not reflect on his athletic ability or endurance. I will never really understand why Wilder did this. I have a feeling it was an attempt to move to fast towards engaging Zhang, which backfired spectacularly and which was never going to be a good idea unless using the tactics that made him previously succesful.

[Pac=Duran]

Did his feet look bad to you? What I saw was issues with distance. Wilder, like Haye usually set up far away from his opponent.He did this because he had reach, and could jump in to punch when he wanted to do so. Wilder was right in front of Zhang... And he willingly went into the corner when Zhang approached. This was bonehead and it did not reflect on his athletic ability or endurance. I will never really understand why Wilder did this. I have a feeling it was an attempt to move to fast towards engaging Zhang, which backfired spectacularly and which was never going to be a good idea unless using the tactics that made him previously succesful.

Any time the going have gotten tough for Wilder, his feet look like they're made out of lead. Even in the Ortiz fight.