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  • #11
    I wouldn't feel comfortable picking Wilder in a fight with a guy you pick out of a phone book at this point
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    • #12
      Remember when Fury was trying to convince the world that Wilder was the second best HW in the game? Lol.
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      • #13
        That's what happens when you get older and have too many miles on you , you see the shot but don't let your hands go. I hope that Wilder retires for his health. I'm pretty sure that he does not need to fight for financial reasons. Go enjoy the life that you earned in the hardest way Champ.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Stab Master Arson View Post
          Remember when Fury was trying to convince the world that Wilder was the second best HW in the game? Lol.
          FYI there has been 5-6 champions since Wilder won the belt and none of them held the belt as long as Wilder, none defended as many times as Wilder and arguably none punched like Wilder until he had the three fights with Fury which made him gunshy...

          And if Fury beats Usyk you'll decide he was a never was, who was too small for the division and Fury deserves no credit for the win.

          Because everything you post is to discredit Fury despite this post having nothing to do with him.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by vitruvian View Post
            I wouldn't feel comfortable picking Wilder in a fight with a guy you pick out of a phone book at this point
            Nah... He will do just fine. That's his specialty.
            cmwiza cmwiza likes this.

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            • #16
              Funny how Wilder’s “not the same fighter” period has coincided with him boxing other top 10 fighters…

              Appreciate that the Fury trilogy has possibly taken a lot from both men, but it is difficult to gauge Wilder’s true quality due to the level of opponents he faced during his prime.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Deontay Wilder is a power puncher, but there is really no evidence that he is the biggest most devastating puncher in history 'Wladimir Kiltschko is statistically a more proven power puncher than Deontay Wilder. Kiltschko during his career had stopped or knocked out more top level Heavyweights than Deontay Wilder'.

                In fact? I would most likely even rate a peak David Haye overall as a more devastating offensive fighter than Deontay Wilder 'Just like Kiltschko, Haye has stopped and knocked out more top level fighters than Wilder. David Haye even as a Heavyweight, whenever he won a fight it was by stoppage or knock-out'.

                In terms of all time rankings, Deontay Wilder is not a more devastating power puncher and offensive fighter than Mike Tyson 'I believe people need to stop pushing this narrative now. I understand that the people most likely promoting this narrative are all hardcore Fury fans'.

                Note: Deontay Wilder regardless has been one of the Heavyweight mountains of his era, he was the in my opinion 'And solid WBC World Heavyweight Champion. In comparison to Fury, Wilder actually to a greater extent took on all comers. If this was not the case? Fury vs Wilder I & II would of not happened. Neither would of Deontay Wilder been able to make 10 defences of his WBC World Heavyweight titles'.

                Stylistically Deontay Wilder was maybe fortunate that he appeared in the Heavyweight Division during this modern era 'Of course Wilder has power, aggression and determination. But outside of those attributes, I have stated this many times before? Deontay Wilder's pure boxing skills, are in and round European level. Nobody can really rate Deontay Wilder in terms of technical ability much higher than a European level fighter'.

                Deontay Wilder has negated those drawbacks, with his power, agression, determination and courage 'And that way of fighting is extremely admirable. Deontay Wilder found a way to be competitive at World and Elite level, without any elite level skills'.

                Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua 'Those are the three Heavyweight mountains of this era. All of the fights which are happening now, are the conclusive battles of their era'.

                And as I told you awhile back Boro, in this competition between the top-4 Heavyweights to see who will be the last man standing of this era 'In a drawn out battle, the trajectory of the competition may move back towards Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua. I theorized this many months ago, almost over 1 year before Tyson Fury eventually fought Oleksandr Uysk'.

                Since May 18th, Tyson Fury is no longer the WBC World Heavyweight Champion. Oleksandr Uysk is the Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion 'Anthony Joshua is the Heavyweight, that nobody wants to talk about. Metaphorical when his critics see him walking down the street? They cross over the road'.

                That is pretty much the situation in the Heavyweight Division, in the conclusive stages of this era etc.








                True, he's gotten this power puncher name, but is a false god.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Stab Master Arson View Post
                  Remember when Fury was trying to convince the world that Wilder was the second best HW in the game? Lol.
                  He knew right well he was there for the picking.

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                  • #19
                    He was a very protected hw

                    Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong and as soon as the competition stopped up, he crumbled which was to be expected.

                    There was a reason his avoided all serious challenges until they had no choice in Ortiz and even then he got that magic punch when he was being dismantled

                    after that he had taken a lot of losses from guys that Joshua wiped the floor with

                    At this point, it’s clear he is cashing out, as he gets older, the only way he makes money is by fighting decent fighters and he will lose of those fights imo
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                    • #20
                      thats false from eddie

                      wilder does have belief, that he will lose

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